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Tax TAx TAX!!!!!! Fuming at our government!

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Baldylovingbeard · 26/11/2025 13:29

please try and convince me otherwise…..

What a joke this government are!!! ( UK)

Let’s just tax everyone who earns a bit of cash!!! Oh and while we’re at it… go on have loads more children it’s ok others will pay for them!!! Cutting the 2child benefit cap! If you decide to have multiple children you should be able to afford to provide for them. NOT expect others too!!!!! If you fall on hard times and you’ve worked and contributed to paying tax than you are within your rights to claim tax this is what benefits were made for, it’s not a means to not work, have more kids….etc!

Oh and if you work really hard and want to put some money by for you later days in life…. You’ll be taxed!

My situation:
Part time work, full time mum to 1 child. I work for myself and earn around 10k this money usually pays for things our daughter needs… clothes, clubs, any treats.
Husband works long hours, his under a lot of stress with his job, he has worked his way to and earns a very good salary 100k he gets taxed 60% you do the maths on that! We live in a 3 bed around £280k so nothing crazy but live within our means. We have one car! One holiday a year! Put money into savings! Pension! our daughter goes to one after school club. My husband got kicked out of home at 16…. He has worked with no help from family or friends and I believe he has worked very hard to get to where he is now. we are generous with charity’s and try our best to help out when we can if we can!

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Correctomundo · 27/11/2025 11:05

Frequency · 27/11/2025 09:39

These replies irritate me immensely. For starters, there are not enough high-paying jobs for everyone to have one. But assuming there was, how fucked do you think the country would be when all the nurses, teaching assistants, hospital porters and cleaners, supermarket staff, etc, stopped working in their low-paying roles?

We need people on lower incomes to stay in their jobs; they literally prop up society. Without them, higher earners would not be able to get to work. Given that they are essential, they deserve a decent standard of living.

There are some careers that have limited wages due to restricted funding by the government. I admit that. Some are low paid because low skilled and easily replaceable. At some point, personal response.

RedTagAlan · 27/11/2025 11:08

Baldylovingbeard · 27/11/2025 10:23

Gosh I’ve not been able to sit and read all of these comments and to be honest I can’t be bothered because some of you ( majority) won’t understand.

In simple terms whether you like it or not we are in the worst tax bracket! If we were a household with two people earning 99k each we’d be laughing but we’re not!

Im very happy contributing tax for people who have fallen on hard times, im not happy paying tax for people who see benefits as a way of living and if some of you lefties can’t understand that that’s because one day you’ll probably end up on benefits, living in a caravan but still happily using the NHS and dumping your rubbish for the council to collect.

Its a real shame you can’t see the hard working people as people and families!

Take care!!! X

From the privileged part time working wife, half /part time tired mum who didn’t see her husband last night because he worked until midnight!!!

No problem really.

Just think of it along the lines of the tax your DH pays, goes towards defence, the Foreign office, infrasructure, business regulators etc. All the things that go towards him being able to earn 100k a year.

Any tax you pay, can we say education, the arts ?

Mix and match however you want. Whatever each of you benefit from.

Benefits ? The tax the lefties and labour supporters pay fund that.

Frequency · 27/11/2025 11:12

Correctomundo · 27/11/2025 11:05

There are some careers that have limited wages due to restricted funding by the government. I admit that. Some are low paid because low skilled and easily replaceable. At some point, personal response.

Regardless of whether they are "easily replaceable," our society would cease to function without them. We need people in low-paid, unskilled jobs. Their value to society is immeasurable, and they should be paid accordingly.

How are all the high-flying bankers getting to the office if the roads are not maintained, public transport is not running, no one is caring for their children and elderly parents, they cannot buy groceries, and the streets are piled high with waste?

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Coffeeandbooks88 · 27/11/2025 11:15

All the exclamation marks in your posts are giving me a headache.

Coffeeandbooks88 · 27/11/2025 11:16

Maybe your husband needs to set some boundaries and not be working until midnight? Enjoy the flounce.

RedTagAlan · 27/11/2025 11:26

Frequency · 27/11/2025 11:12

Regardless of whether they are "easily replaceable," our society would cease to function without them. We need people in low-paid, unskilled jobs. Their value to society is immeasurable, and they should be paid accordingly.

How are all the high-flying bankers getting to the office if the roads are not maintained, public transport is not running, no one is caring for their children and elderly parents, they cannot buy groceries, and the streets are piled high with waste?

For some reason I picture it in terms of petrol station workers.

And no offence to them of course.

As the banker on the way to the bank fills his tank at 6 am, thinking about the high finance day ahead, the petrol station attendant might be on minimum wage, living in social housing, claiming income support of various sorts.

The government are basically subsidising both the petrol station owner, and the banker using it at 6 am.

Without the benefits system, the cost of living might be a lot higher.

Donsyb · 27/11/2025 11:27

So what do you think they should have done then?

Lalgarh · 27/11/2025 11:28

Frequency · 27/11/2025 11:12

Regardless of whether they are "easily replaceable," our society would cease to function without them. We need people in low-paid, unskilled jobs. Their value to society is immeasurable, and they should be paid accordingly.

How are all the high-flying bankers getting to the office if the roads are not maintained, public transport is not running, no one is caring for their children and elderly parents, they cannot buy groceries, and the streets are piled high with waste?

Note on women's hour that the minimum wage increases will have a significant impact in raising women out of poverty due to their dominance in employment in the care sector.

Also "these wages tend to be spent in the real local economy" so should filter through to local businesses. Also with the 2 child cap removal the Rape Clause, where women had to prove their third or later child was the product of rape will no longer apply.

Interesting bit of polling on the Shambles that is Your Party: most are expecting it to be like the greens. Ppl are already taking the fact that Reeves took a potshot at their hypnoboobs leader yesterday as a sign that greens are having an impact on policy positions.

https://nitter.net/YouGov/status/1993975302008008741#m

And they are usually the 2nd in lots and lots of comfortable Tory shires where many posters here might be..

Frequency · 27/11/2025 11:34

RedTagAlan · 27/11/2025 11:26

For some reason I picture it in terms of petrol station workers.

And no offence to them of course.

As the banker on the way to the bank fills his tank at 6 am, thinking about the high finance day ahead, the petrol station attendant might be on minimum wage, living in social housing, claiming income support of various sorts.

The government are basically subsidising both the petrol station owner, and the banker using it at 6 am.

Without the benefits system, the cost of living might be a lot higher.

It's literally everything, even the things we don't think of, basic infrastructure like the power grid and internet is held up by low-paid, unskilled, and semi-skilled workers. Yes, there are people at the top earning massive amounts for very skilled jobs, but without the low-paid workers doing the grunt work, that infrastructure would collapse.

We'd be fucked within hours if all the low-paid employees downed tools.

AlltheHedgehogsontheWall · 27/11/2025 11:46

Frequency · 27/11/2025 11:34

It's literally everything, even the things we don't think of, basic infrastructure like the power grid and internet is held up by low-paid, unskilled, and semi-skilled workers. Yes, there are people at the top earning massive amounts for very skilled jobs, but without the low-paid workers doing the grunt work, that infrastructure would collapse.

We'd be fucked within hours if all the low-paid employees downed tools.

The speed from which they went from low-skilled workers to heroic keyworkers to scroungers who deserve to starve makes my head spin.

hamsterchump · 27/11/2025 11:57

YorkshireGoldDrinker · 26/11/2025 13:57

Probably. I don't care. My husband voted for them on my behalf in protest (I don't vote, that's a man's job), not because he wants them in power.

WTF! Are you sure you should be posting here Dear, don't you think we should speak to your husband instead?

Namechange234567 · 27/11/2025 12:01

Correctomundo · 27/11/2025 09:32

Completely understand people who become disabled need PIP and support.

If you're in a low-paying job. Make a plan to upskill and get to a better job.

But there isn't an unlimited amount of higher paying jobs, so inherently they're 'taking' someone else's role and that person would need to take a lower paid role.

The way we have society requires that there are people in low paid roles, and as seen on this thread, when minimum wage goes up everyone is upset at how that'll put up prices and impact them.

How can we solve for that?

Correctomundo · 27/11/2025 12:08

Frequency · 27/11/2025 11:12

Regardless of whether they are "easily replaceable," our society would cease to function without them. We need people in low-paid, unskilled jobs. Their value to society is immeasurable, and they should be paid accordingly.

How are all the high-flying bankers getting to the office if the roads are not maintained, public transport is not running, no one is caring for their children and elderly parents, they cannot buy groceries, and the streets are piled high with waste?

Immeasurable - I mean I would never say someone "worth" is their job or how much money they have.

But regarding income and salary. The level someone gets paid is usually down to the economics of it . Skill, demand for the skill..how many people can do it and the revenue the worker brings in.(Marginal revenue product I believe)

Lalgarh · 27/11/2025 12:17

But regarding income and salary. The level someone gets paid is usually down to the economics of it . Skill, demand for the skill..how many people can do it and the revenue the worker brings in.(Marginal revenue product I believe).

When we had carers coming in to look after my parents, quite a few had gone into it after formerly having big careers in business or finance. They'd got to "that age" and been made redundant or gone bust and this was literally the only job going

Frequency · 27/11/2025 12:36

Correctomundo · 27/11/2025 12:08

Immeasurable - I mean I would never say someone "worth" is their job or how much money they have.

But regarding income and salary. The level someone gets paid is usually down to the economics of it . Skill, demand for the skill..how many people can do it and the revenue the worker brings in.(Marginal revenue product I believe)

The demand is based on how many people have the skill, not the demand or necessity for the actual role.

If all the supermarket staff walked out and all the hedge fund managers walked out at the same time, the demand for the supermarket staff to come back would be higher than for the hedge fund managers, particularly when you consider that AI can have a good crack at managing your hedge fund; it cannot stock your supermarket shelves.

Baldylovingbeard · 27/11/2025 12:38

NoSoapJustUseShowerGel · 27/11/2025 10:52

“Im very happy contributing tax for people who have fallen on hard times, im not happy paying tax for people who see benefits as a way of living”

Except you are not contributing a single penny in tax, are you? What a joke. (From a person paying higher rate tax, married to another higher rate tax payer, not receiving child benefit as over the limit, neither of us have ever received benefits).

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I paid my fair share since I’ve worked from the age of 16!!!! And now because I have ONE child….. I can now only work part time.

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AlltheHedgehogsontheWall · 27/11/2025 12:41

Baldylovingbeard · 27/11/2025 12:38

I paid my fair share since I’ve worked from the age of 16!!!! And now because I have ONE child….. I can now only work part time.

Utter rubbish. Loads of parents work full time.

Lalgarh · 27/11/2025 12:42

You seem very annoyed at your child

SleeplessInWherever · 27/11/2025 12:51

Baldylovingbeard · 27/11/2025 12:38

I paid my fair share since I’ve worked from the age of 16!!!! And now because I have ONE child….. I can now only work part time.

I doubt you were a net contributor at 16.

You can work full time with your ONE child, lots of people manage it. One of my team has THREE children and works 40hrs a week.

You’d rather just complain about the quantity of money your husband has. Own that, if it’s working for you.

Coffeeandbooks88 · 27/11/2025 13:18

Working full time with one child is easy.

ruethewhirl · 27/11/2025 13:31

MrsLizzieDarcy · 26/11/2025 18:21

Anyone who thinks that the children being raised in poor households (that will benefit from the removal of this cap) are deluded if they think they are future contributors to the pot. They won't work just like their parents, but you can bet they'll go on and have handfuls of kids that they drag up and go on to repeat the cycle. They are nothing but a drain on the NHS, the education system, Social Services, the Police force and the court systems.The reality is that it's more money for gel nails, slug eyebrows, lip fillers/botox, banned breed dogs, vapes, lottery tickets and food deliveries for their parents... and not one penny will get spent on lifting children out of poverty.

But today we're celebrating these families and giving them even more money from the mugs who are working to fund them. Slow hand clap, Labour.

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Well, you're coming off as being a real treat on this thread. And why is it always bloody nails and fillers? 🙄How many people do you personally (and I mean personally, not 'Sandra down the road') know that live the sort of life you're describing here?

Bruminbrum · 27/11/2025 13:31

Baldylovingbeard · 27/11/2025 12:38

I paid my fair share since I’ve worked from the age of 16!!!! And now because I have ONE child….. I can now only work part time.

Seems a bit lazy if you ask me … I work FT with 2.

id imagine you’d feel wealthier if you worked FT like most

Wonderfrau · 27/11/2025 13:31

PeonyPatch · 26/11/2025 14:42

Here. Here. I’m in a similar boat. I work part time in a professional healthcare role (£36k) 32hrs. DH earns £80-£100k self employed. Live in the SE. 3 bed house. Trying for children. One car between us. One holiday or a couple of UK breaks per year. Getting squeezed. We barely put our heating on.

Blimey! Your housing costs must be astronomical. You have an income over 116k, no kids, one car, one holiday and yet can’t afford to put your heating on? You must consider moving before you have children, surely?

AlltheHedgehogsontheWall · 27/11/2025 13:36

Bruminbrum · 27/11/2025 13:31

Seems a bit lazy if you ask me … I work FT with 2.

id imagine you’d feel wealthier if you worked FT like most

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And maybe then her husband wouldn't feel compelled to work until midnight.

Although I suspect they could manage off a lot less and he is choosing to prioritise work over family.

Maryaliceyoungx · 27/11/2025 13:47

Bruminbrum · 27/11/2025 13:31

Seems a bit lazy if you ask me … I work FT with 2.

id imagine you’d feel wealthier if you worked FT like most

Edited

Are your kids nursery age? For me it wasn’t worth it as the cost of nursery non- funded hours as soared to cope with the underfunding for the funded hours. For me it would have been £3k a month for two kids in nursery (south east so nurseries are well over 100 a day here)

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