Tax TAx TAX!!!!!! Fuming at our government!

[Baldylovingbeard]

please try and convince me otherwise…..

What a joke this government are!!! ( UK)

Let’s just tax everyone who earns a bit of cash!!! Oh and while we’re at it… go on have loads more children it’s ok others will pay for them!!! Cutting the 2child benefit cap! If you decide to have multiple children you should be able to afford to provide for them. NOT expect others too!!!!! If you fall on hard times and you’ve worked and contributed to paying tax than you are within your rights to claim tax this is what benefits were made for, it’s not a means to not work, have more kids….etc!

Oh and if you work really hard and want to put some money by for you later days in life…. You’ll be taxed!

My situation:
Part time work, full time mum to 1 child. I work for myself and earn around 10k this money usually pays for things our daughter needs… clothes, clubs, any treats.
Husband works long hours, his under a lot of stress with his job, he has worked his way to and earns a very good salary 100k he gets taxed 60% you do the maths on that! We live in a 3 bed around £280k so nothing crazy but live within our means. We have one car! One holiday a year! Put money into savings! Pension! our daughter goes to one after school club. My husband got kicked out of home at 16…. He has worked with no help from family or friends and I believe he has worked very hard to get to where he is now. we are generous with charity’s and try our best to help out when we can if we can!

I feel for them. But surely welfare is a last resort. Surely you have savings at the start?

Surely you have savings at the start? When I divorced I had nothing. My abusive ex wouldn’t let me work, kept me locked in the house and didn’t give me a penny. Savings from where? All I got when we split was half the debt.

So I left him, and I claimed benefits while I went to college. I qualified two years later, got an job and almost 25 years on I’ve never been on benefits since. It was those benefits - income support, housing benefit and paid childcare that enabled me to lift myself, and my children out of the gutter.

Honestly, people are completely out of touch. They have no idea. Millions of wc families are living month to month and can’t save a penny. Savings are a pipe dream for so many people.

More Tattoos,lip fillers and nails done then. The children won't see that extra money 😡

Good that for you benefits were temporary and that now you're not on them..instead of staying on them forever

How long would you be able to survive on your savings if you woke up tomorrow with a debilitating disease that stopped you from working over night?

And although the people I know (because of my background and socio-economic status) did have savings to start with. But when it takes 2-3 years to be able to return to work are you really expecting everyone to just have that in the bank? How is someone working in a low paying job, supposed to build the type of savings you're suggesting they should have?

You wouldn’t believe how important the beauty industry is the government coiffers. It’s a HUGE money making/job creating industry.

Completely understand people who become disabled need PIP and support.

If you're in a low-paying job. Make a plan to upskill and get to a better job.

Your story is exactly what benefits are for. People in need. Unfortunately a lot of people think they’re owed benefits, a lifestyle and take the piss. And it’s infuriating - they make genuine benefit claimants look bad because they are just lazy feckless benefit grabbers. Frauds. It’s true and it’s sad that genuine claimants bear the brunt of people’s upset at this situation. The fact the gvt just keep feeding the fraudulent benefits beast is fcking ridiculous.

Better some people take the piss and nobody goes hungry than some people starve just in case some people take the piss.

People are always saying that on here 😆. What would happen if all the low paid workers did, in fact, do just that?

Our rubbish would pile up on the streets. Our public buildings would be filthy. Our elderly and infirm people would sit neglected in their own waste. Etc etc...

Said someone who pays no tax

These replies irritate me immensely. For starters, there are not enough high-paying jobs for everyone to have one. But assuming there was, how fucked do you think the country would be when all the nurses, teaching assistants, hospital porters and cleaners, supermarket staff, etc, stopped working in their low-paying roles?

We need people on lower incomes to stay in their jobs; they literally prop up society. Without them, higher earners would not be able to get to work. Given that they are essential, they deserve a decent standard of living.

No you grow up! You sound bitter! And a bit pathetic to be honest!

You’d soon change your tune if you’re working hard and no better off for it.

Insightful.

That's the wrong narrative though. Properties increasing exponentially in value isn't 'hard earned money'. People equate being rich with having worked very hard, it's almost never the case.

I pay tax, and agree with that poster.

Except, if the benefit system was properly overhauled and policed then no genuine claimant would starve.

I have zero problems with the deliberately work shy and feckless going hungry.

Lol yeah that's right. Absolutely mind-boggling, not just the selfishness on these threads but the complete inability to comprehend that anyone might be motivated by anything but pure self-interest.

Do you know my job situation? Because I don't think I've mentioned it? No, of course you don't. You just cannot comprehend any other mindset than your own.

Ooooo, sounds like I hit a nerve. You don’t know me either, so try not to jump to conclusions yourself.

@Arraminta hss got it right. I want welfare reform. Not handing out tax payers money willy nilly. There needs to be better regulation. In fact, I’d be happy to pay more tax if it funded this! That would be a good use of tax.

I'm sorry if I'm wrong and you a) do know my job and b) can comprehend that my opinion might not be based on the amount of tax I pay. It's just that I based my reply on the actual words you said, that's all. You didn't hit a nerve at all, so don't worry - since you know nothing about me, that would have been quite tricky, wouldn't it?

I don’t need to know your job situation, dear. I simply replied to what you wrote. There’s no need to get so personal.

'Dear'