Tax TAx TAX!!!!!! Fuming at our government!

[Baldylovingbeard]

please try and convince me otherwise…..

What a joke this government are!!! ( UK)

Let’s just tax everyone who earns a bit of cash!!! Oh and while we’re at it… go on have loads more children it’s ok others will pay for them!!! Cutting the 2child benefit cap! If you decide to have multiple children you should be able to afford to provide for them. NOT expect others too!!!!! If you fall on hard times and you’ve worked and contributed to paying tax than you are within your rights to claim tax this is what benefits were made for, it’s not a means to not work, have more kids….etc!

Oh and if you work really hard and want to put some money by for you later days in life…. You’ll be taxed!

My situation:
Part time work, full time mum to 1 child. I work for myself and earn around 10k this money usually pays for things our daughter needs… clothes, clubs, any treats.
Husband works long hours, his under a lot of stress with his job, he has worked his way to and earns a very good salary 100k he gets taxed 60% you do the maths on that! We live in a 3 bed around £280k so nothing crazy but live within our means. We have one car! One holiday a year! Put money into savings! Pension! our daughter goes to one after school club. My husband got kicked out of home at 16…. He has worked with no help from family or friends and I believe he has worked very hard to get to where he is now. we are generous with charity’s and try our best to help out when we can if we can!

Sell your house, spend all your money, quit your job and start living that benefit life you dream about?

Life is too short to whine about something so easily accessible to you!

Surely if you earn £10k, you are not paying any income tax at all.

I think I will 😂

I’m confused which tax enraged you so much. As a higher rate taxpayer.

I think she means she works hard for her husband’s wages. Fail to see how earning 10k can be hard work, or for very many hours.

Also you personally don’t work hard for your salary and are not paying any tax on it

Nice!

eta - that’s sarcasm

Well if he's telling you that, he's hiding money away somewhere. And the 12k allowance starts tapering at 100k , you don't lose it completely until you earn 125k. Either he's not being honest with you or you're just not bothering to understand. And this (shit) system has been in place for years, it hasn't suddenly changed under this budget.

She uses it to pay for things for her daughter!

so that’s 10k those don’t have on uc

and this poster is bemoaning them having an extra few hundred a month to spend on such things as food and clothes for their children

much less than 10k a year on one child for treats etc

People moan about the state of services etc and then don’t want to pay tax. The most efficient countries with good quality of life are high tax countries.

I'm on the same page with you - I got education and built a successful career to become a high rate taxpayer, self sufficient and able to privately educate my DC out of my salary alone.

OP made different choice in life, we know nothing about her profession (if any), if she's going to go back to work, but she had a child with a man who can support their family. Unlike many who keep on having a baby with every new man etc.

The point I'm trying to make is that OP, and you, made responsible choices, and call it lucky is just stupid

Almost identical situation. Utterly crazy that we should be worse off than both of us working £50k jobs and getting free childcare. I also earn around the £12k mark. Zero UC top ups, no child benefit (not saying we need it but why should a couple who both earn £50k get it? Should go on household income) where's the incentive for my husband to work even harder? He works away so I'm basically a single parent household working evenings so I can get the kids to where they need to be (one is disabled)

I might add, we didn't have a third child because we can't afford it. Sick of people choosing to have 4 kids and then expecting everyone else to pay for their choice,

Yeah just read all OPs posts and none the wiser.

Sort’ve reads as though the totality of the thought was “TAX BAD!” with no other rational thought behind it.

Lots of earners who make slightly more than 100k are able to salary sacrifice successfully, perhaps OPs husband needs to ensure he has explored all of his options.

Wonder what help they had 😉

I can’t believe people get to such priveleged position and then moan about those having a life like shameless and are jealous of them!

begs belief

just enjoy your good fortune and celebrate you were probably never a young carer for your family or a carer at all

Until 2028, when you get rinsed on that too…

I honestly don’t understand how a family on £100k plus feels hard done by. DH and I both work, and our joint income is £70k. We live in the South East, so not a cheap area. We don’t have great savings and can’t afford to save a penny for our 2 young children at the moment, but we consider ourselves to be very lucky to have what we do.

I find it very hard to sympathise when I am teaching children whose families can’t afford shoes (and that isn’t through lack of aspiration. Rather very sad, unfortunate circumstances).

That would be classed as deprivation of capital.

I’m obviously not, but I’m certainly going to make some changes. Many others exploit the system (not saying I necessarily will), but I do feel demotivated, and that it’s not worth working hard and aspiring to having a family.

Fuming re the news on electric cars 😡

you see, this is exactly your mindset - that what some of us achieved are just luck and/or privilege.

FYI - I've been a carer for over 20 years, one of my DC has disability. I grew up in severe poverty with my parents going hungry to be able to feed me. I just worked both very hard and smart all my life to escape such poverty.

But you're welcome to believe it's luck or privilege. The issue is that as long as you believe it you'll never progress.

It’s very sad you can’t see your privilege

The only families on benefits I know that are lapping up pretty good lives are those being fraudulent earning cash on the side or claiming disability money which is still pretty piss poor and doesn’t exactly allow them foreign holidays. They want to crack down on fraud but honestly I know of many fraudulent families and they all seem to get away with it- really annoys me but what can you do. Majority of families in receipt of benefits that are genuine and not fraudulent are struggling, so lifting this benefit cap for children will help tremendously. I also doubt it will make people have more kids, you’ve got to be a certain type of person to have more children for the sake of an extra couple hundred a month.

Same decision DH and I have made. Not a single penny taken from the taxpayer.

I too come from a working class background and grew up in poverty, and also have a disabled child.

Our household income is £100k+, and my salary (the higher of the two) is in the higher tax threshold.

I have worked very hard for what I have, myself and my partner both do, in very challenging circumstances. But that still puts me in a privileged position, because I have means that others don’t - even if they do have more sleep!

Having more doesn’t automatically mean that you have to be comfortable with so many living in the poverty I did.

I think the right thing to do is pay the tax that is due and be pleased it’s going to people more vulnerable. It’s a shame for some people having more equates to being more selfish.

It’s not privilege though, I work very hard for very little pay off. I feel trapped and depressed.