Tax TAx TAX!!!!!! Fuming at our government!

[Baldylovingbeard]

please try and convince me otherwise…..

What a joke this government are!!! ( UK)

Let’s just tax everyone who earns a bit of cash!!! Oh and while we’re at it… go on have loads more children it’s ok others will pay for them!!! Cutting the 2child benefit cap! If you decide to have multiple children you should be able to afford to provide for them. NOT expect others too!!!!! If you fall on hard times and you’ve worked and contributed to paying tax than you are within your rights to claim tax this is what benefits were made for, it’s not a means to not work, have more kids….etc!

Oh and if you work really hard and want to put some money by for you later days in life…. You’ll be taxed!

My situation:
Part time work, full time mum to 1 child. I work for myself and earn around 10k this money usually pays for things our daughter needs… clothes, clubs, any treats.
Husband works long hours, his under a lot of stress with his job, he has worked his way to and earns a very good salary 100k he gets taxed 60% you do the maths on that! We live in a 3 bed around £280k so nothing crazy but live within our means. We have one car! One holiday a year! Put money into savings! Pension! our daughter goes to one after school club. My husband got kicked out of home at 16…. He has worked with no help from family or friends and I believe he has worked very hard to get to where he is now. we are generous with charity’s and try our best to help out when we can if we can!

"You're not wrong , OP, but sadly anyone who remembers the 1970s pretty much knew that this would happen..... and yet the electorate voted them in 🤷‍♀️"

In the 70's the electorate voted to stay in the EU. More recently we voted to leave the EU and hamstrung our economy on an ongoing basis. Even the conservatives increased overall taxes to record levels.

It doesn't really which party was in power; they would all have had to raise taxes - and it will only get worse as the brexit economic damage accumulates.

Not sure why you are shouting, the pp's post wasn't clear hence my question. Of course the benefit cap isn't universal so many many many large families are not covered by it.

You said we had years of non payment of taxes, what are you referring to?

Again. Where all the saved funds that should have gone into maintenance of local government infrastructure like local housing and roadswent to instead. Possibly stashed in a cash isa. But not spent on care for elderly or children (mind you that's not popular proposal on this thread anyway).

https://www.sloughobserver.co.uk/news/24824102.rbwms-financial-crisis---went-wrong-windsor-maidenhead/

It's a trade off as ever. Do you want to pay more council tax with the promise of a road that isn't pock marked with craters or do you want to not have to pay council tax and pay for new tyres every 18 months

You are very fortunate. Your DH earns a good salary. You work part-time for extras and won't be taxed. I can't see what your problem is.

Someone I know of who runs a business told me something.

Paraphrased:

"My business was on it's arse for a long while and I wasn't paying myself. I was relying on savings. If it wasn't for savings, I'd have drawn £3.5k per month in benefits, effectively being permitted to shut it all down, lay off my employees and never have to work again."

See, people say you can't live on benefits, but they seem to forget everything you get;

Support with housing
Support with council tax
Support with energy bills

One of the problems with incentivising people back to work is they might be getting 85% of what someone on minimum wage gets, but they're getting that with 0 hours work and no time given up. To get 100%, they have to work 40 hours a week.

So why, pray tell, wouldn't anyone want to stay in bed all day and sleep if they can get paid to not work, and then get all the time in the world?

Working is a fool's game these days. All the worth of it has been removed.

OP hasn't been back so I presume this another one of those goady AF posts set to whip folk up into a frenzy. Bravo OP now bore off.

What people need to realise. You cant live off just benefits.

He works bloody hard so he can support our family and apparently everyone else’s family. We get nothing in the form of childcare support or tax credits. Therefore we have not choice but for me not to work

Why do you think he is subsidising everyone else?

can i ask if youre on benefits or minimum wage ?

Say what? Voting is a man’s job?

I well and truly despair.

Same reason

Have people forgotten it was the Tories who brought in the income tax threshold freezes.
I don't actually think taxes were raised that much in this budget. I don't think the salary sacrifice pension changes will be that much more tax. The thresholds have been frozen for so long now that its just beginning to seem like the status quo. Don't taxes generally go up in most budgets?

support with housing

what support is that @YorkshireGoldDrinker? They got rid of MIRAS

Have people forgotten it was the Tories who brought in the income tax threshold freezes.

Bizarrely they don’t seem to realise

"What people need to realise. You cant live off just benefits."

Oh, so it's JUST benefits now. It's the luxuries you don't get on benefits that you want but don't need.

You need to live, don't you? Then the taxpayer props you up. If you want luxuries, you earn them.

@CandiedPrincess so what are the reasons for voting for Reform then?

I suspect it will be news to the people of Windsor and Maidenhead that they have had years of not having to pay tax. The pp made an absurd statement saying there have been years of non payment of taxes which is just a complete fantasy, i am not sure why you are trying to support a completely fallacious statement

Wow. That’s just shocking!
He works a 1/3 of the year for free! In what world is that fair. So 4 months of every year, he’s working for zero.
Well that’s enough incentive for me not to bother working my way up the ladder; giving up extra time and putting more money into education. No wonder doctors work part time and business people move to Dubai.

@lolly427 so you don’t think people deserve housing?

How would you reduce the population? kill off old people?!

You’re going to have to quote where I “clearly resent” people needing benefits.

Actually the single biggest thing they could have done is to change the way they calculate poverty which is an entirely constructed measure. You do realise that we could have a minimum income of 100000 a year per household and there would still be thousands if not millions of children in poverty according to this government.

Torys cut allowances and thresholds of tax, this meant less tax was collected. So tax wasn't paid and services have decreased

fuel duty freeze since 2010 has cost an estimated £130bn, tax wasn't paid, wasn't collected.

Everyone who pays tax works part of the year “for free” if you want to use that analogy - it really doesn’t work. Besides, it’s not “for free”, it’s for the public services he receives. The end result is still that he takes home more money than someone on a lower salary.

We have an ageing population that hasn’t paid enough tax. What on earth do people expect?!

It’s not about whether they can afford it, it’s why other people are more entitled to their money than they are.