Tax TAx TAX!!!!!! Fuming at our government!

[Baldylovingbeard]

please try and convince me otherwise…..

What a joke this government are!!! ( UK)

Let’s just tax everyone who earns a bit of cash!!! Oh and while we’re at it… go on have loads more children it’s ok others will pay for them!!! Cutting the 2child benefit cap! If you decide to have multiple children you should be able to afford to provide for them. NOT expect others too!!!!! If you fall on hard times and you’ve worked and contributed to paying tax than you are within your rights to claim tax this is what benefits were made for, it’s not a means to not work, have more kids….etc!

Oh and if you work really hard and want to put some money by for you later days in life…. You’ll be taxed!

My situation:
Part time work, full time mum to 1 child. I work for myself and earn around 10k this money usually pays for things our daughter needs… clothes, clubs, any treats.
Husband works long hours, his under a lot of stress with his job, he has worked his way to and earns a very good salary 100k he gets taxed 60% you do the maths on that! We live in a 3 bed around £280k so nothing crazy but live within our means. We have one car! One holiday a year! Put money into savings! Pension! our daughter goes to one after school club. My husband got kicked out of home at 16…. He has worked with no help from family or friends and I believe he has worked very hard to get to where he is now. we are generous with charity’s and try our best to help out when we can if we can!

And deservedly so!
It struck me as a very fair budget and nowhere near as bad as I thought it would be!

Not many people have noticed that the state pension will rise faster than the NMW. The boomers win again

Just reading this thread and listening to the media, the age old ‘cant please everyone all of the time’ applies the same as any role or decision which involves the public.

Local radio have just had a LIBDEM MP in slating RR for not lifting the two child policy sooner, breaking her election promise, leaving it 18 months when children are in poverty. Yet in here, PP’s are disgusted she has lifted it at all.

The post above about pensions, ideas for privatising health, for lifting the minimum wage…for CG taxes, for increased council tax….all slighted by someone. We are a very selfish nation who don't want to share with anyone else and only see the budget from our own point of view.

Absolutely no win for RR or Labour in any decisions they take. I admire RR for trying to work through the mess left by the Conservatives.

Umm - she is wrong actually on a number of points. Other people have kindly clarified the mistakes.

@Baldylovingbeard calm down. If you want a decent NHS and other public services - the money has to come from somewhere.

I thought it was an ok budget, nothing terrible. I will be paying more tax myself but thats to be expected the state the country has been in for the last decade and a half.

Can't get excited about it and id rather pay more tax and have a better society for everyone.

A democracy can ONLY exist with a large and strong middle class to balance conflict… RR and Labour are causing very real problems that are in danger of undermining society as a whole….

NMW is government-created inflation. As it increases, more low skilled workers become too expensive to hire/retain, then the business folds like a deckchair. It starts a nationwide chain-reaction of one SME after another pulling the shutters down, things then get more expensive to make up for the shortfall, prices go up further etc. We're in a doom spiral.

Im glad they have lifted it.

We are a very selfish nation who don't want to share with anyone else and only see the budget from our own point of view.

Agree totally with this sentiment, its certainly a self centred type nation, happy to moan about the state of the NHS but don't want to fund it

The link isn’t really the gotcha that you think it is. I doubt anyone actively enjoys paying taxes but many people are fully prepared to pay (and pay a bit more if push comes to shove) in order to improve things more generally. Me sticking an extra tenner in here and there won’t make a difference if there’s no collective effort. And that’s what government is about.

This thread is illuminating and for a parenting website really interesting. So much judgement about women (less so about men) and so little concern about children living in poverty. There may be adults who game the system but there are also children who have no say and who are directly impacted. You’re fully entitled to hold your views of course. It’s just that I don’t share them. Different strokes and all that.

The tax burden will be at a record high soon so that doesn’t track.

And still, the OP hasn't returned. That’s how interested she is in their financial affairs and the views of others on MN.
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Yep there’s only a few on mn with this take.

when Labour talk about hard working families what they mean is families who have never worked a day in their lives and who live off benefits and most likely so did their parents and so will their kids.

unless you work in this field you literally have no clue about how this group of soceity lives. they do not want a job, they cannot hold down a job, they are chaotic, disorganised and completely lacking in resilience. 1 in 4 under 25s dont work because they have a disability. just let that sink in because this is the generation that needs to be working and paying in taxes to fund YOUR retirement.

But you can do that, and pay some extra tax. The difference is you are arrogant enough to think that you know best and can make that decision for other people.

What about the late 1990s? Labour were around then as well.

So am I

That would be those needing the benefits you so clearly resent. It certainly isn't Mrs Only One holiday a year.

Of course the tax burden will be high, its needed to try and count for the years of non payments

see fuel tax is still frozen and has been since 2012

My thoughts as well. I would have preferred them to raise income tax rather than all this fiddling, and we will be a bit worse off, but seems a small price to pay to make society a little bit less unequal.

Why.

Sorry can you remind me when were the years of non-payment of tax? I seem to have missed those.

It’s not luck - it’s hard bloody work!! My husband ‘subsidises’ but he works for a global company and therefore travels every other week. He works bloody hard so he can support our family and apparently everyone else’s family. We get nothing in the form of childcare support or tax credits. Therefore we have not choice but for me not to work.

I can remember the 1970s and tax was 30% on my wage packet back then and that was the first bracket. Top bracket was 75%

Who said anything about a gotcha? Noticing things and bringing them to the fore isn't tripping people up, it's helping to enlighten people. "Just pay your taxes and be quiet" is the attitude I'm picking up and it has never sat well with me. But, ironically, that's exactly what I do, I get on with things and I watch the state help itself to my wages while throwing up both middle fingers because I have no choice.