The BBC are screwed, aren't they?

[kinkytoes]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c891jp9j79do

Are we ever going to find out who actually made the monumental fuck up? Rather than just a homogenous apology from the top.

Is this person/people still working for them?

I actually understand why Trump is doing this. You can't just let something so wrong pass by or they'll just keep doing it.

Donald Trump, Nigel Farage and Tommy Robinson are like a breath of fresh air in politics! If people support them, the world will change forever!

It absolutely will. Not in a good way.

I'm not disagreeing that Reform/GB focus on immigration but using the GLP as a source really weakens the argument.

It's like pointing out a greater need for car safety but using Coco the clown in his clown car to front the campaign.

No I think the BBC are missing the issue and it’s not what you’ve put it as. This is their problem atm.

The BBC is massively biased. It’s basically a propaganda unit for the Oxbridge left. You only have to listen to Radio 4 (which I used to like but have given up on). The final straw for me was tuning into a programme on Jane Austen. Within five minutes they had linked her to colonialism and slavery and that was it, that was all they talked about for the rest of the programme.

No I wouldn't consider it relevant because I don't believe it would be impartial.

Plus this organisation is not only impartial but incompetent.

Do you not believe that research, just as news reporting should be impartial?

I was responding directly to a post which asked for evidence that GB News misleads it's viewers. This offers this information. It's not as in your face as the BBC splicing the speech but it certainly highlights this.

I hope this is the end of the BBC, an institution that are apparently unbiased that we who pay for them can trust. They have proved themselves to be liars and anything but trustworthy. Get rid, we should be bloody outraged but still there are the apologists and those who will find any excuse not to see it for what it is.

We can agree to differ.

I do not like Trump one bit. However, the BBC was very much in the wrong here. I am concerned about the people who will defend the BBC in this case because of how much they hate Trump. Big reforms are needed within the BBC to bring back the trust and reputation it should have. As it stands, it is looking like a hypocrite.

They have done an analysis of language. Regardless of whether it's impartial it highlights how certain words are correlated.

As the whole thread points out, it is very rare to find truly impartial news. We therefore have to discern, through the raft of information we are presented, what we deem to be "real". If we limit that to only the sources we want to believe we have to accept that we are complicit in creating the polarisation.

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Just spat my tea out!

Do you know who the Good Law Project are?

They're a bunch of trans activists FFS

"From 1973 and until he was elected president in 2016, Donald Trump and his businesses were involved in over 4,000 legal cases in United States federal and state courts, including battles with casino patrons, million-dollar real estate lawsuits, personal defamation lawsuits, and over 100 business tax disputes."

This is what the man does.

😂😂😂😂😂

They've been up to this sort of crap for years. Granted, this is the most egregious but there's Boris at the cenotaph looking hungover to buggery that they swapped out for an earlier appearance, and whether you liked Corbyn or not, there was that deliberate stage backdrop of him where he was made to look like Lenin. No-one reports the bare facts anymore. There is a bias in everything. Trump was doing a good enough job all by himself to show us the kind of arsehole he was, he didn't need any help.

But, do away with the BBC and we will be very much poorer for it. I think they need to get rid of all the political appointments, frankly. If you stuff an institution full of people who are known to support one party over another, you will get bias.

Which makes the BBC even more stupid 'over confident in their own self belief' than one could have imagined.

What they did with the Trump speach was wrong. No ifs, no buts.

I believe the contemporary saying is FAFO 😂

Look Mrs Bennett, I think you’re clearly a left wing person and I consider myself slightly right of centre (I’m not a ‘death penalty and zero immigrants’ type, but I want things like a smaller welfare state, less immigration and so on).

So it’s natural that both of us will look at organisations that don’t support our worldview and deem them ‘biased’.

I think the institutions of the country have been left wing for so long, their supporters can no longer see the water they swim in. And each person has their own Overton window as to what they consider a ‘neutral stance’. On Question Time, out of 5 guests, the usual spread is 1 rabidly right wing person, 1 centre right person, then 3 people who are left wing or more in the centre. But because that right wing person is considered completely outrageous, their comments will somehow seem more prominent and ‘dominant’ than the others. And thus they’ll say it’s a ‘right wing programme’ even though an objective analysis would say it isn’t.

What the BBC did was wrong.

Trump doesn't care that they were wrong. He is a bully who uses threats to silence any questions from people who should be questioning him. He uses the FAFO principle to get away with all kinds of appalling behaviour.
What we need are more people questioning the bully not less.

The Good Law Project is a deeply sinister organisation run by a man who has a seething hatred of women and built his career helping people to dodge tax. He’s now remodelled himself as a renaissance man who ‘fights the power’ (often unsuccessfully).

So you think its okay to do things that are wrong as long as its against 'bad' people?
What worries me about that stance is who gets to define 'bad'.

May I translate some of the first paragraph of the GLP thing?

despite indifferent viewing figures

should be

despite being the most watched news program on UK TV

determined to smear people with links to Pakistan as involved in grooming gangs.

should be

determined to expose the fact that the vast majority of the perpetrators of the rape gangs were of Pakistani origin and that their ethnicity was a fundamental part of why the crimes were not properly investigated

Can't be bothered to read any further than that, sorry.

I know of people from China, India and Bangladesh who are livid that the BBC continues to obfuscate on this issue by describing them as ”Asian”. Another clear example of their institutional worry.

Where did I say that it is okay to do things that are wrong as long as it's against 'bad' people?

Yes! I had forgotten that?

I've actually spent an evening with Martine Croxall at a charity event. Not a pleasant person.

I don’t believe that the term ‘slightly right of centre’ applies to anyone any longer.
everybody has been so manipulated over the past 15 years by Cameron in the first instance, Farage,Trump, that they think their views are moderate but they really aren’t.
What does a smaller welfare state even mean? You want to stop benefits for whom exactly? The disabled, the state pension, those boasting about fleecing a system that is designed to give you very little unless you go to extraordinary lengths to prove otherwise?
And what is wrong with immigrants paying tax in this country? Or is the student immigrant population you don’t like? Paying top dollar to keep the universities afloat?
Or is it really the tiny percentage that come in via small boat that the daily fail told you were preventing you getting a doctor’s appointment or a school place?Please don’t kid yourself these are slightly right of centre views.