Friend still believes in "chavs"?

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Had a funny (well, slightly depressing) conversation today. my friend came round all flustered, telling me that she'd been "harassed by chavs" outside the shop. One was some teenager who asked for her number 🙄

Tried to explain that "chavs" aren't even real, it's a tabloid invented stereotype/myth from the early 2000s that was basically used to demonise working class people. But she just went on about it like she was quoting The Sun from 2004. I ended up showing her this article. She's 39.... and I expected her to know a bit better but what can ya do eh?

Just feels so outdated now. You don't really hear anyone say "chav" anymore (thankfully), and it's weird how those old class-based stereotypes still linger. I honestly felt like I'd timetravelled back to the Little Britain era 😂

Anyone else still know people who talk like that?

You can't be killed by something that's a myth. That's like saying my friend got killed by Bigfoot.

My mum too. We were working class from a council estate, we had high standards of behaviour, but those that didn’t were called common before the word chav came about.

This is one of the most batshit posts I’ve ever read. How can you possibly not see you’re wrong when so many people are here proving you wrong? You may not like the word but you can’t claim it’s ‘mythical’ because you don’t agree with it.

Also, leave Nessie out of this. Nobody on earth refers to a large fish as a “Nessie”. She’s not a fish nor a dinosaur. I hate seeing her mislabelled like this. #justicefornessie

chavs aren’t working class people 🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️ chavs are layabout youths who exhibit antisocial behaviour.

Youre being utterly ridiculous!

Isn't Katie Price working class? Or have I got that wrong..?

So, despite everyone else saying that chavs are not all working class people and that they know of many people happily identifying as chavs, you are determined to believe they don’t exist?

am assuming you also feel the same way about other groups in society then. Goths aren’t real then? They are also mythical and made up and just people who prefer dark colours but absolutely not goths even if they identify as goths.

you have never met a chav so they must not be real. I have never met you so you must not be real.

Your friend got harassed and tried to talk to you about it and you made her feel like shit and came on here to make a bat shit thread

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/a-chavs-guide-to-chavs/

You, op, are the awful Owen Jones - someone I hoped I'd never hear of again - and I claim my £5

Do you mean Irish Traveller? Or Romany? I'm interested in both groups.

"Believes in chavs" is a really odd way of putting it. While I don't think it is necessary to call anyone a "chav", these people (whatever group of people the term refers to) exist, they aren't mythical elves or fairies and they presumably didn't cease to exist just because the term "chav" has fallen out of common usage.
In the same way that ch**k was a commonly used racist term for Chinese people, which has thankfully fallen out of usage, but Chinese people themselves still exist.

And nice, normal working class people don’t harrass other people outside the shops.

I think this is the best, most simplest description of them for OP to get their head round (if they can be arsed). A lot of them happen to have the same taste in clothes but that’s by the by. Anyone who behaves in a decent and civilised way is not a chav regardless of their social status.

Cambridge University doesn't know what a woman is so how reputable a source can they be?

Council house and violent.

I’ll wager that there are many of these types that are still in existence.

We used to call them roughs

You’re really coming across quite thick now op. Why are you so against the term? Do you think goths are myths too?

Completely agree. Must be nice to live in such a privileged bubble that you can deny people who behave like this exist.

Roadman is used for Caribbean youths I thought? Who do similar antisocial things to chavs?

I obviously don't know for sure and am ready to stand corrected. But it's possible that you aren't often subjected to the behaviour of truly delinquent teenagers. Some areas on my estate are no-go zones, not because of blind prejudice but because you are likely to get stabbed, robbed or beaten to a pulp. And for reference, it is the working class people that live on the estate for whom this is a daily reality. Strangely they aren't as sensitive as you seem to be about the description of those that terrorise them.

This is wrong. Chav is not another word for working class. They're the opposite of working class values and only a middle class person would confuse the two.

The white chavs have claimed “roadman” for themselves as well. Badge of honour to be thought of as a road man, they think they’re well hard. 🤣🙈

must admit I don’t use the term chav or roadman, I quite like “skeffer”

Goths are a real subculture, so no, goths aren't a myth.

What kind of friend are you OP that you’re more concerned about some chavs being called chavs than you are about your friend being harassed? A terrible friend is what. (Assuming any if this nonsense is even real).

A chav is not working class because the majority of them don’t work. And quoting Cambridge University and saying they are a mythical creation like Nessie is top tier batshit MN

Round our way growing up they were Ned’s (Non Educated Delinquent) and they absolutely do still exist and get called that

Made me laugh after using that term in that context for years to move to London and find there is a 5 star hotel called The Ned