I don't want to pay more fucking tax!

[marthainthemarket]

I am the sole earner in a family of four, earning just under 40k a year and getting probably fuck all or below inflation pay increase next year, if I am lucky enough to keep my job ( public sector and employer needing to make massive budget savings). I barely cope now.

I am so fucking angry that Labour fucked up the disability benefit cuts. Other countries don't have run away disability benefits crises because they have a proper assessment process that means they keep a lid on people getting disability benefits who don't really need them. But instead of dealing with that, they came up with a crap proposed cut that wouldn't have dealt with the actual issues and they couldn't defend.

And having fucked that up they are now raising everyone's tax. I hate them!

Because if you’re basing your opinion solely on your lived experience only - it is biased. As mine would be… if I did that… but I do try to read around and look at alternative view points and read statistics etc to inform my opinions.

@PeonyPatchI’m not surprised. I thought it might happen pre leadership contest if Polanski won.

It does take votes from Labour though.

We need face to face PIP assessments to put an end to the gravy train.

The Laffer curve works both ways. Up to a certain point, increasing taxes increases revenue. We are not at the critical point yet.

Agreed. I work in MH too and those suffering from mild/moderate MH conditions need support in going to work and staying in work. Being signed off indefinitely should be a last resort for those who are severely unwell and unlikely to recover.

Have you seen the press lately? The epitome of biased! So no , I will rely on my lived experience thank you

Do you? I go through waves of thinking that as well, but I’m ever the optimist that things can change - but it will take some bold action, patience and perseverance.

I was optimistic ish up to the last few months.

I don't think any government will take the necessary steps. But I also think too many of the electorate don't want to recognise the reality & are still in the blame game mentality. It's bigger than one party but posters prefer partisan politics. These threads are indicative of that & incredibly depressing!

Yes. It was really bad for nearly every group in the country. The complete lack of a post-Brexit plan resulted in political instability and chaos. It may have killed the Conservative Party.

You do you. But there is more to read than the mainstream press. There are lots of other places and materials you can engage with. But sure, you carrry on existing in your own bubble.

I don’t need ‘facts’.

Evidently, but it says a lot about you!

Yes, you’ve got a fair point. I saw Kemi Badenoch on Sky news today and she was doing just that, gunning for Reeves and blaming the Labour Party - the presenter intervened and reminded her that it was the Tories who have been in power for much longer. It’s all become too much of a blame game. We need a cross-party approach, but I have little hope that will happen. It’s all become about power and ego. It’s quite boring in fact and frustrating.

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However much you are struggling OP, be thankful you are not disabled and struggling.

It can happen to anyone at any time.

What is they work cash in hand while claiming benefits?

"It may have killed the Conservative Party."

Excellent result then? I will take a Reform government with Greens as main opposition.

Just pay your tax mate.

Is that Reeves and Starmer’s new line?

I would be OK with paying more tax, but the amount of people in the UK who get free money for not working, or barely working makes this feel so unfair.

@PeonyPatchdo you think the Greens will address this?

Lol, I am roughly same age as you and what you said happened is bollocks. Perhaps had you read the news at the time and looked at facts at the time and now then what you said wouldn't have been made up! Goodness me, it's laughable.

So would I.

Well. Tories were kicked out. Everybody celebrated (including me). I'm sensing a bit of buyer's remorse. Not from you, OP. Just in general. Labour's MO is tax and spend until the country's finances are in the toilet, as they sink, they don't like apportioning blame on themselves, but accountability has to go somewhere, so they blame Tories and Brexit.

We can weather this storm. The country survived Gordon Brown (just), it can survive Rachel Reeves (I hope).

His behaviour to you was unreasonable. Sadly gaming and cheating has been going on for decades.

Jesus. Reform, and you think things are bad now.... ffs.

I can come back in 30 years and people would be repeating the same thing. Like parrots and still taxed to death. Services still not good and generations of families playing the system. Probably the Tories still being blamed too. 🥱

Labour's MO is tax and spend until the country's finances are in the toilet, as they sink, they don't like apportioning blame on themselves, but accountability has to go somewhere, so they blame Tories and Brexit.

What is the Tories MO has they presided over a fair bit of tax rises?