I don't want to pay more fucking tax!

[marthainthemarket]

I am the sole earner in a family of four, earning just under 40k a year and getting probably fuck all or below inflation pay increase next year, if I am lucky enough to keep my job ( public sector and employer needing to make massive budget savings). I barely cope now.

I am so fucking angry that Labour fucked up the disability benefit cuts. Other countries don't have run away disability benefits crises because they have a proper assessment process that means they keep a lid on people getting disability benefits who don't really need them. But instead of dealing with that, they came up with a crap proposed cut that wouldn't have dealt with the actual issues and they couldn't defend.

And having fucked that up they are now raising everyone's tax. I hate them!

Lower VAT and put it on everything. Would probably save squillions on Treasury and small business admin

We could counter that with: large portions of the population lack the work ethic which would help pull this country out of the hole it is in.

You are scary. Disabled people are struggling just like everyone else.

Get off tiktok and stop the politics of envy at disabled people accessing motability. You haven't mentioned it but your post reeks of jealousy.

You get a disability since you think its so easy.

Disgusting post.

Cut back on spending. Stop doing everything in their power to hammer businesses, drive out the wealthy and shrink the actual tax base. Acquaint themselves with the Laffer Curve.

Tbf I would rather they increased taxes across the board than fannying around with definitions of "working person" to tax the usual mugs some more.

I think that's underestimating the corrosive effect that seeing obvious unfairness in the system can have on a society.

The argument that taxing wealth or cutting down on the number of people abusing the benefits system will not raise that much money may even be true, but simply reducing the reality, or even just the perception, that some people are contributing and others are not will have a net positive effect on a lots of different things, like productivity, mental health, crime, etc.

The whole 'blitz spirit' thing may have been massively exaggerated, but the concept is sound. It's much easier to galvanize people if they can be persuaded that we are all in this together.

I am talking about the pensioners who have contributed and continue to pay tax. I agree about pensioners on pension credit. I would remove it.

At work when we advertise for a full time role we get barely any applicants.

If we advertise a part-time role we are inundated...

Another thing I've noticed is a lot of the partners of my colleagues are registered as single parents but live with their OH.
So we are basically paying for their entire household plus they get their OH full time wages as the cherry on top. The amount of money going to these households is unreal. They are quite blatant about it too, they are always talking about it.
We had all sorts of problems when they were handing out payments to households on benefits towards gas and electricity the other year because a couple of them didn't qualify for the full amount.
In the small town in Lancashire we work in there are generations who haven't worked and they know how to play the system.

I don't think people would mind if it was actually going towards these services! It's not, paying for every tom dick and Harry coming over by boat, benefits for people that can't be arsed to work, money sent to other conteries constantly..

Labour have always been good at squandering other people’s money! Do you remember them saying ‘Good Iuck, there’s no money left’ to the conservatives in 2015? We have never recovered

Blame Farage, Johnson and all the Brexit voters, they are the reason taxes will rise. Will get even worse if Reform get in.

Can’t remember the exact quote but this is certainly correct: those who receive a benefit are never as grateful for it as those who pay for it are angry.

And also wanting to scrap the 2 child benefit cap.. why to people want to be taxed more to pay for other people's bloody kids?? It's ludicrous

If two adults working cannot afford housing or childcare, the answer is not to ask for more benefits from the government (that other workers end up paying for) but to ask why companies, some of whom are making large amounts of money for their shareholders, are not paying enough for their employees to live on.

If once upon a time it was possible to live on one salary, we need to ask ourselves where it has all gone wrong for the majority and who is reaping all of the benefits.

Nothing for Labour? The people in power who mangled the last budget.

Most of her elderly have paid in to their pensions through 50+ years of work! This used to be ringfenced but is not any more and is used to fund other benefits

Perhaps you should look more closely at the figures then.

How did they 'mangle the last budget'?

I heartily agree that people expect fairness.

Even if the motability cost is not huge in the grand scheme of things, as it stands it is over-generous. Someone said upthread you cannot get one for anxiety. You absolutely can. A relative has a Vauxhall something of other for that very condition. But what is ludicrous is that people can choose any car within reason, and there’s no tax - and no insurance! - to pay. Now that is I think unacceptable. A subsidised adapted car for a physical disability - absolutely. But otherwise, no.

Also, stop pissing money on things we don't need or don't want or can't afford - HS2, aid to countries richer than us, NHS red tape

THIS is exactly why people are pissed off! We all know services will still be appalling!

Disability benefits are not the issue.

I am not lying thank you, I say it as I see it? I am in my 50s and have lived if? Controlled immigration is fine and indeed we need the skills of migrants, as we have always done. Uncontrolled, unvetted migration is absolutely not ok. I am not going to spell out to you the problems of the current Liebur government. If you cannot see them then you are a lost cause.

Most of her elderly have paid in to their pensions through 50+ years of work! This used to be ringfenced but is not any more and is used to fund other benefits

Can people stop posting nonsense

@belovedandpureones please link to some evidence of the above?

I don’t understand why you would want to punish children and have them live in poverty. It’s not their choice to be born

They are part of a huge problem of over spending.

our benefit system is too generous & unaffordable