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Stabbing turns out to be terror related or in a similar vein to incident to recent incidents that were related to immigration ? We don't know the identities yet of the perpetrators. But the fact the Home Secretary is brought in to comment in tabloids and the discussion on LK on BBC today makes me worried its a possibility. The poor people on the train - I cannot even imagine .. ..Starmer needs to tackle knife crime as its rife. What is the answer ? When is there a tipping point ? I don't know but something must be done - I've never paid as much attention other than feeling so terribly sorry for any victims and families. Now I'm starting to get angry when I see anything like this

Agreed.

When I started working in psychiatry almost 30 years ago, I thought everyone experiencing a serious mental illness was a good person who had a horrible illness afflict them.

And that's the case in my experience for the majority.

But there are an awful lot of absolutely fucking terrible people who just happen to have a mental illness. The same as there are wonderful people who get cancer and some absolute bastards that do too.

And it's very, very rare that an individual who is a risk to the public is purely because of their mental illness.

I identify as British. "Foreign" as in foreign-born as I dont want to specify where exactly.

Well that has little relevance here. These two men were British born.

You are probably more aligned with British values and have better English communication skills than some whose ancestry in England go back centuries.

It obviously matters enormously to some people that more brown people are becoming British citizens.

Amazing how quickly people have switched from claiming this is all about immigration to just straight racism about Black communities.

As England has a predominance of white people then yes the majority of crime is committed by white British people. However it’s impossible to say what factor ethnicity plays in crime as the police do not currently record or report it as part of crime statistics. It may well be that certain ethnicities are over represented for certain types of crime, it’s important information to have particularly for prevention.

Sadly, not in the least surprised.

My DH was not born in this country - and "feels" and IS British. With some cultural affiliations to the culture of his parents

My BIL was not born here and did not become a British Citizen until he married my DSis - he feels British and finds his past weird and alien like another life, another person, and doesn't identify with that country at all.

I wasn't born in London but I have lived here longer than I have lived anywhere else, more than two thirds of my life and I feel like a Londoner. through and through - but I have understandings of people brought up in post-mining areas, rural areas.

Identity is a very complex issue and you can't tell anything by 'suspecting'

People who are ethnically Chinese and people who are ethnically Japanese do look quite different, though. So I can understand why they thought it was inappropriate as geishas are something specific within ethnic Japanese culture.

More British? Seriously? More British than someone who can trace their lineage to these isles from the 1600s?

Some say 1945. Others say 1900.

The process does not need 'speeding up' it needs to be more thorough with strict measures in places such as no docs/no passport no entry.

Arriving with a new iPhone but no passport should equal immediate deportation.

We need to know who these young men are surely you can see that?

because the people arrested are British born so their true colours are coming out

I am not talking about the very small minority of posts from people expressing nerves or worry - even where they were being bit speculative.

I am talking about posts using extremely vitriolic/hateful language - and the sheer numbers of lies that were being bandied about. Tommy R and his ilk are hardly shaking in their boots.

I hope you never have to flee a war torn nation and only take what you have with you.

I think the issue was mainly because Japanese considered her physically inferior because of being Chinese.

Fuckin hell, this is insanity!

You can have dual nationality - my DC do. They could also have British citizenship via the Irish ancestry route if they wanted to, which would give them three nationalities. All completely above board.

Isn't it. Just wait for a "I'm not racist but..." comment.

Did somebody say anything about colour or you are imagining words on a screen?

No I’ve just watched you descend from blaming all immigrants to being openly racist when, yet again, you’ve been proven wrong on the identity of the attacker

Yes, that is more of an issue. Physically different does not mean physically inferior.

Literally on the other thread people kept asking if they were black and I was like I am confused as you are talking about the illegal on dingy boats and Islamic extremists
how is knowing they are black knowing they are either of those things.

then it turned out they were British born and descends of carribean and then it was well still black
it’s horrible. I am white British and we do need to understands that breed also breeds hate and we need to do better to !

It’s absolutely terrifying. People wonder how hitler and the Nazis got into power, but then you see thinking like this being cited as being the norm.

Absolutely agree. Women and dc from Sudan should be a priority.