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Stabbing turns out to be terror related or in a similar vein to incident to recent incidents that were related to immigration ? We don't know the identities yet of the perpetrators. But the fact the Home Secretary is brought in to comment in tabloids and the discussion on LK on BBC today makes me worried its a possibility. The poor people on the train - I cannot even imagine .. ..Starmer needs to tackle knife crime as its rife. What is the answer ? When is there a tipping point ? I don't know but something must be done - I've never paid as much attention other than feeling so terribly sorry for any victims and families. Now I'm starting to get angry when I see anything like this

What ever the reason that comes out the one thing I know.

Knife crime is out of control and we need a LOT more police and stop and search implementation on all races.
Knifes found then a criminal record given.

The only reason to carry a decent knife is a chef that has just purchased and even then a receipt and carry in a locked box should Be insisted by law

Most chefs would order knife's direct to workplace anyway.

Tree surgeons workmen etc don't carry zombie knife's.

@Pharazon but the overall conversation on the thread is about terror attacks or what some perceive to be terror attacks happening in England. It's wrong imo to equate what happened in England & NI during the Troubles, it was very, very different. I am happy to be corrected on mainland civilian deaths.

Why haven't the police released the identities of the attackers yet? Why are they allowed to keep this information from the public?

Yes, what's that about.

My Mum told me as a child around 10, she witnessed a knife attack between Teddy boys and the Milkshake cafe owner's son, sadly he died, this was the 1950s.

Do you not know a great deal about the British justice system?

Yes and ‘nutters’ is another way to minimise.

Because the authorities are busy ensuring they are able to secure a conviction not bowing down to public pressure which could threaten that.

They were still terrorist attacks. So one cannot say that terrorist attacks did not happen in the 70s, which a pp was trying to state.

Not of randomly stabbing members of the public they weren't.

The IRA was a highly organised paramilitary organisation bombing sites with military and political reasons.

And they warned of and claimed their paramilitary terrorism.

It simply wasn't the case that some lone eejit was randomly stabbing members of the public and claiming IRA sympathy.

Why would gangs rampage through a train stabbing strangers? Makes no sense at all. Gangs usually attack opposing gang members.

I’m not equating it at all. I was correcting a poster who bizarrely claimed that terrorist attacks didn’t happen in the UK in the 60s/70s/80s when she was young.

i agree that neither this current atrocity, nor Islamic terrorism and ‘lone wolf’ type attacks are directly comparable to the Troubles, which were effectively a civil war.

I do however take issue with fantasy suggestions that the UK was a bed of roses in the 60s/70s/80s.

And most of the things you said you thought could be solutions are aimed at migrants / immigrants.

The vast majority of knife crime is not by migrants / immigrants.

That’s all right then, they still killed innocent people.

The Harrods bomb was 1983, I thought you said you were born in the 80s? So you were caught up near the explosion as a baby?

Ah, the sweet sound of goalposts being moved...

Ah but that was okay because they were only shooting people and blowing them up, which is apparently fine.

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Er, I think you'll find that not all of their bombs were focused on "military and political" targets. They targeted my local high street for a start. You clearly don't know much about their activities in the 80s.

Nope.

I'm saying Black people usually identify as not purely British because that ignores their heritage, family, race and culture and lived experience as a non-white person in a predominantly white society where every statistic tells us that could put them at a disadvantage.

Do you think Black British people of any heritage have the same heritage and experiences of a white British person?

Or do you think there are differences?

Weed generally doesn't cause aggression.

Alcohol and other drugs does.

In the London Hilton bomb attack there was a two minute warning, not enough time for my Dad and others who happened to be in there for a business meeting to leave the hotel, he was lucky and was at the back of the hotel but the idea that everything was absolutely fine and risk free as there were 'warnings' is factually incorrect.

Yes, I agree.

It is hard to determine whether this is deliberate ignorance or outright f..k wittery!

The IRA bombed Warrington town centre with no information about where the bomb was that killed two children

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warrington_bombings

@Netcurtainnelly- have you seen the mess they’ve made in the Councils they are leading?

Ever heard of Epstein, Andrew Mountbatten Windsor, Donald Trump?