What will Starmer do if Huntingdon...

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Stabbing turns out to be terror related or in a similar vein to incident to recent incidents that were related to immigration ? We don't know the identities yet of the perpetrators. But the fact the Home Secretary is brought in to comment in tabloids and the discussion on LK on BBC today makes me worried its a possibility. The poor people on the train - I cannot even imagine .. ..Starmer needs to tackle knife crime as its rife. What is the answer ? When is there a tipping point ? I don't know but something must be done - I've never paid as much attention other than feeling so terribly sorry for any victims and families. Now I'm starting to get angry when I see anything like this

Terrorist attacks in England in the 1970s were all bombings that the IRA usually gave warnings about, were military or political sites and always claimed by the IRA.

The IRA didn't have lone perpetrators running around stabbing people.

They were a highly organised paramilitary organisation.

Apologies. You gave me the impression you were minimising the impacts of terrorism on people living on the mainland. Clearly it was worse if you lived in Belfast or Derry. Sorry for misunderstanding you.

So you’re saying black people can’t be properly British and are more likely to commit random acts of mass murder then?

NZ has more lax gun laws so has incidents like the Christchurch massacres in 2019 when 51 people were killed. By way of comparison in the UK there have been about 100 people killed by terror attack this century (7/7 London bombings 52 killed Manchester Arena 22 killed)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christchurch_mosque_shootings

What they mean is they can’t give their opinion without someone disagreeing with them. They want disagreement with their views banned because it makes them feel attacked.

Weekly terrorist attacks in England?

Involving random stabbings?

Oh that's ok then, my Dad in the Hilton should have known better!

Every time a British born person commits a crime more people want to vote Reform? Why?

Mind boggles doesn’t it!

I am hoping that people soon start to see the way reform led councils are imploding already and realise that they aren’t some magic cure!

So why bring immigration into it yourself when you have no idea yet who the perpetrators were or what their motivation was?

21 civilians died in the Birmingham pub bombings alone.

Starmer will do nothing. He never does.

What would you like him to do about two British born nutters?

They killed a member of the royal family and nearly killed the PM. And there were definitely vigilante type attacks by IRA (and other paramilitary) organisations in NI.

@PrettyDamnCosmic that doesn't make 125.

…and many black mothers of teenage children WANT all young
People to be stopped and searched if it means their children are more protected. Educate the young people how to compliantly conduct themselves while searches are carried out / it is a policing policy that may well prevent them from being attacked by knives.

The London Hilton 1975 attack was not a military or political site, they have a two minute phone warning, not a great amount of time to flee. How old are you and were you living in London in the 1970s 1980s?

I said 3500 deaths in the UK not on the mainland. 125 civilians (and 50 police and army) on the mainland comes from Sutton’s Index of Deaths (CAIN) as summarised by Alpha History: alphahistory.com/northernireland/ira-mainland-campaign/

In this country the criminal justice system is separate from the government. As it should be. What do you want him to do?

Its already been said the police presence will increase, and its just the start as i would imagine. What would you like Starmer to do? Blow up a couple of small boats because two deranged Brits attacked people on a train?

Going back the original post about 'these things didn't happen back in the day', the poster asserted that schoolchildren weren't killing each other at school back then either.

Am I missing something? Has there been a sudden uptick in school killings in the UK? Or is this just plain old , copy and pasted off Facebook crap.

“Pushing”? Reporting, I think you mean?

How old are you and were you living in London in the 1970s 1980s?

I was a child in the 80s growing up in London & was in Harrods during that bomb.

I personally don't see the Troubles as the same as islamic terrorist attacks.

How do you know they were 'nutters'? It might have been drugs, it might have been anything crime related.

There is a lot the government can do about knife crime. Stop and search for example.

No they haven't.

The same as Axel Radabaknu wasn't Welsh.

Being born in a country doesn't mean you have that heritage.

Millions of non-white people in the UK will be really pissed off with your claim that they are English when they are not.

The lived experience of non-white people in the UK is completely different to people who can claim English heritage and it's patronising and Ethnocentric to claim otherwise.