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Stabbing turns out to be terror related or in a similar vein to incident to recent incidents that were related to immigration ? We don't know the identities yet of the perpetrators. But the fact the Home Secretary is brought in to comment in tabloids and the discussion on LK on BBC today makes me worried its a possibility. The poor people on the train - I cannot even imagine .. ..Starmer needs to tackle knife crime as its rife. What is the answer ? When is there a tipping point ? I don't know but something must be done - I've never paid as much attention other than feeling so terribly sorry for any victims and families. Now I'm starting to get angry when I see anything like this

Ok, so how many dead and raped people are an acceptable collateral damage for trains to keep costs down?

Which is exactly what happened in this case given the train stopped at the next station and the police were there, ready and waiting?

Not knife fights with innocent train passengers en masse though?

How many terrorist attacks did you hear of in the 70s? Are you serious?

As fast as your trollish responses to all my posts?

Asking you to elaborate on your posts isn't trolling 😆

Let's please just avoid each other on this thread.

Go ahead

One of my closest friends is a guard on that route…

I agree with you. I don't think anyone with so much hate in them would give a shit whether there are guards present or not . I travel by train fairly frequently and see guards on the trains, how many guards would be enough though ?

Exactly this. People unthinkingly say that present day Britain is some unprecedentedly dangerous war zone. It's nonsense. Crime statistics show that it's barely ever been safer. People forget the IRA, skinheads, unbelievable levels of domestic violence and CSA that just went unreported.

The biggest difference now is that it's all in the open and reported on 24hr news channels and social media constantly.

Given that the perpetrators of this attack were black men, perhaps you should admonish them for perpetuating negative stereotypes about black men and knife crime…

You're being ridiculous. No one said that all black men smoke weed. But the odds that these two particular men - who have just stabbed a load of innocent strangers - do is probably greater than 50%. Persistent cannabis use is known to be a risk factor for violent behaviour and poor mental health, particularly schizophrenia.

@SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice but who is going to pay. As @taxguru said fares are already ££££

Tbf you could say the same to the county lines accusations.

Bizarre isn’t it. Weekly terrorist attacks in the 70s and 80s. Over 3500 dead. Armed soldiers on the streets. But apparently it was much better than now…

That’s because of the identity of the terrorists and they don’t even try to hide it.

Yes you need an assimilation program. Because real diversity is not, ‘let’s eat each others food’ and ‘here’s my national dress!’

Real diversity can include some very ugly practices and beliefs that are not compatible with civilized societies.

I learnt a new word only yesterday:

Anemoia is a neologism for nostalgia for a time or place one has never known, a longing for a past that was not personally experienced. It is different from nostalgia, which is a fond memory of one's own past.

Weekly terrorist attacks in the 70s and 80s. Over 3500 dead. Armed soldiers on the streets. But apparently it was much better than now…

The majority of this was confined to NI so many in England won't have the awareness.

But the perpetrators were not immigrants, so how is this relevant to this thread?

I'm glad that's the case for you, Lifecouldbeadream, but street crime, burglary, ASB, SA and thuggery among schoolchildren are all seriously up, where I live. And a lot of the online abuse isn't out in the open either.

I'm glad that's the case for you, Lifecouldbeadream, but street crime, burglary, ASB, SA and thuggery among schoolchildren are all seriously up, where I live. And a lot of the online abuse isn't out in the open either.

I'm glad that's the case for you, Lifecouldbeadream, but street crime, burglary, ASB, SA and thuggery among schoolchildren are all seriously up, where I live. And a lot of the online abuse isn't out in the open either.

I'm glad that's the case for you, Lifecouldbeadream, but street crime, burglary, ASB, SA and thuggery among schoolchildren are all seriously up, where I live. And a lot of the online abuse isn't out in the open either.

My mum grew up in Birmingham, witnessed bombs first hand and was regularly sent home from school because of bomb threats.

But for some reason she genuinely believes that it was safer then than it is today.

As someone living in London and as a civilian I certainly feel the risk is higher to myself and particularly my dc which are often a deliberate target these days.

People living in the 50s, 60s, 70s who are now deceased would be turning in their grave now seeing England today.
Everyday its something.

How many children did you hear about who were murdered at school by another pupil back then? - Children were more often murdered by their parents back then.
How many terrorist attacks did you hear of? - The IRA were rampant in the 70s. (Their first major attack was 1939 I believe)
How many stories about migrant crossings did you hear of? - The period after WW2 (40-60s) saw an influx of migration into the UK. Windrush etc. Poles staying after the War.
Hotels having to put asylum seekers up. - migrants were housed by councils in the shiny new high rises being built after the War.
Having to hear that some of them have murdered people.
How many prisons were full? - this has been a problem since Victorian times!

Maybe you need to read a history book or two and not just bilge online?

I'm glad that's the case for you, Lifecouldbeadream, but street crime, burglary, ASB, SA and thuggery among schoolchildren are all seriously up, where I live. And a lot of the online abuse isn't out in the open either.