Which accent adds an extra r sound to drawing?

[SandalsAndSand]

So that it sounds like drawring?

That’s all thank you. It’s annoying me that I can’t remember which accent it is.

TIA

I’m from the south and it does sound the same to me. My accent sounds like the British woman in the link you sent saying it.

I’m Irish. No r sound between draw and ing and no superhuman effort required at all 😅
But then aw and or are completely different in my accent too. Not sure if that makes a difference but the first syllable of drawing doesn’t have an or vowel sound for me iyswim.

I don’t know whether this just muddies the waters further but in my (NW English) accent draw and drawer sound the same so it has what I consider an “r” sound but not what the Scot’s would consider an r sound, not rrrrry enough

Nope not the slightest hint of an extra r 😀But for me the first vowel sound isn't OR it's AW

Does this guy help people who can’t hear it without an r?

Okay, that’s not the sound of or for me at all. I have a rhotic accent so the r sound in or is pronounced. That makes it quite different from aw, for me.

It still doesn’t explain where the r sound in drawing comes from?🤔
It’s not there in draw. Is it?

That's how I'd say it then just stick ing on the end!

Definitely Brummie

Also SE but say draw ring 😳

Irish. We don’t use an intrusive R. There’s a slight glottal stop between the syllables.

It’s called a linking or intrusive ‘r’. See also ‘AfricaR and India’ (Africa and India’ and ‘lawR and order’ (Law and order), where a lot of English dialects insert an ‘r’.

Nothing to do with aw sounding like or in some accents then?

I’m Welsh but not with a strong accent. Would you say it almost in one syllable? As I say it in a very definitely 2 syllables. Draw-ring. I can definitely hear an Irish accent and an American accent not pronouncing an extra r

to me draw rhymes with or

I wish there was a voice note function on here. My head is melting trying to imagine all these different pronunciations!

(I'm central Scotland - drawing has no extra sounds for me. I really want to hear the person that says 'awe' and 'or' sound the same, I can't imagine that at all!)

Nope. Here you go.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linking_and_intrusive_R

I think you must be thinking draw-wing to sound like del boy. I'm another who puts a slight r into it. But the people who don't are saying draw -ing, not draw-wing. I think we say draw-ring. Like someone else has put, I'd also probably say law - rand - order if I say the name of that TV show quickly. I can't help it. The only way to stop is to have a little pause between draw and the ing, as if it's 2 separate words. In fact I think I have to say draw using an out breath, and then the ing while breathing in. Otherwise the r jumps in again!!

It’s not there in draw. Is it?

Yes, it is for me, like ‘dror’

I know I’m being no help at all! I really want to hear a recording of both ways, I’m sure I will be like oh yeah! When I actually hear it, I just can’t imagine in my head

But if you are Welsh wouldn't you say 'draw ing'? Why would you say 'draw ring'?

I really appreciate the explanation, I just can’t quite hear in my head. I’m annoyed with myself! Law and order for me is ‘Loran order’

Editing to add, if I put a gap between a draw and ing then it does sound different but just with two r’s then. Like ‘dror ring’ instead of ‘droring’

This might help.

You can really hear the difference between the rhotic accents and non-rhotic accents here.
https://forvo.com/word/or/

In these particular recordings the UK and Australian speakers have non-rhotic accents, so or sounds like awe, while the US speakers have rhotic accents. The UK speakers are English I think. Most Scottish and NI accents would be rhotic though, as would some English accents, so rhoticity varies within the UK.

Because in my accent in my bit of wales which isn’t very Welsh sounding, the way the draw blends into the ing adds an r sound. It’s hard to explain because I’ve never given it a second thought before this thread and now all I can think of is the word drawing 😆

I can (after repeating it lots of times like a maniac) hear how you can say it without the extra r and I think I really emphasise 2 different syllables without any gap so the way draw flows into ing adds the r. Like if I said Anna Evans fast it would sound like Anna Revans. Maybe I just add lots of unnecessary Rs!

Im the same as you

I don’t think you’re pronouncing that r though?

Oh that's interesting. So there are probably 3 groups of people then! Those that don't have an r at all, those like me who sort of add the r to the start of the second syllable, and those like you who have an r at the end of the first syllable.

I'm trying to think of a word that has the aw sound without a hint of an r .... maybe the word all? Then try stopping the sound before the L, and adding ing? What if a baby is bawling? Remove the L.. could you piece it together that way?

Same here.
There aren't any extra sounds, that's why.