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Surely you don't carry your phone everywhere?

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SEmyarse · 04/10/2025 17:06

Every time there's a discussion about civil liberties, for instance at the moment with ID cards, people always say, why are you worried they can track you by your phone anyway. But that implies that people are always carrying their phones.

I have a phone, I have to for work, and it's very useful outside work as well. I sometimes use it for navigation, and on certain instances I might take it with me if there's a chance I'll need to liaise with someone while out. Super helpful technology.

But surely people aren't taking it to the shops, or on the school run, or out for a walk in the countryside?

OP posts:
Runningismyhappyplace50 · 05/10/2025 14:50

My phone is always with me. Everything is on my phone!

I have occasionally forgotten it and have gone back to get it if possible.

LillyPJ · 05/10/2025 15:58

I always take mine with me out of habit. Sometimes - maybe often even - I don't actually use it. But I'm far more inconvenienced if I need it but haven't got it than I am by carrying it in a pocket or handbag even if it's not needed. Always taking it also means I don't have to think about whether I'll need it or not. It's just there if I do.

JennyShaw · 05/10/2025 17:34

DingDongJingle · 04/10/2025 21:58

Maybe the poster’s mother has considered all of those things and decided that an iPhone meets her needs?

That wouldn't be an intelligent decision. It could be a life threatening decision.

Slcalohaj · 05/10/2025 17:40

JennyShaw · 05/10/2025 17:34

That wouldn't be an intelligent decision. It could be a life threatening decision.

So they should force on their mother a different phone they’re not used to and don’t want and may not suit their needs, including in an emergency (ie hey siri) 🙄

Lollylucyclark101 · 05/10/2025 17:46

SEmyarse · 04/10/2025 17:06

Every time there's a discussion about civil liberties, for instance at the moment with ID cards, people always say, why are you worried they can track you by your phone anyway. But that implies that people are always carrying their phones.

I have a phone, I have to for work, and it's very useful outside work as well. I sometimes use it for navigation, and on certain instances I might take it with me if there's a chance I'll need to liaise with someone while out. Super helpful technology.

But surely people aren't taking it to the shops, or on the school run, or out for a walk in the countryside?

Yea I don’t take it all the time.

and no, I won’t be signing up for a digital id.

JennyShaw · 05/10/2025 17:46

Tortielady · 04/10/2025 22:15

You bet your sweet life. She was counting out her change for public phone-boxes (and probably complaining about the whiff) before I was even thought of and I'm in my 60s. If she decides she wants to move over to something else, she'll get plenty of help to do so, but that's up to her.

So the only two alternatives in your mind is a public payphone and a smartphone. Has anyone explained to her that she can have a cheap small phone that means she can make phone calls and texts, is easier to use and doesn't require charging every day?

musicinme · 05/10/2025 17:50

SEmyarse · 04/10/2025 17:09

That sounds really weird, I hate carrying stuff. Don't usually lock the door so I don't have to take keys

I am the exception to the rule I know (or a complete freak) but I love being without a phone, so that I do not have to be continually interrupted. That way I can just either be alone or with the person I am with, concentrating on the how. I know there are a million reasons to have one, but it feels like freedom to be without one. Or at the very least switched off.

Missey85 · 05/10/2025 17:52

I take my phone everywhere with me, you never know when you'll need a phone 😊❤️

Teddybear23 · 05/10/2025 17:55

SEmyarse · 04/10/2025 17:09

That sounds really weird, I hate carrying stuff. Don't usually lock the door so I don't have to take keys

You do realise if you are burgled your insurance won’t pay out because you’ve left the house insecure? Or don’t you have insurance?

MMUmum · 05/10/2025 18:00

I'm 65 I take my phone everywhere. I have a Dd and also my family living many miles from me, it's an emergency lifeline, and also has my bank cards, loyalty cards, train tickets etc

Sharptonguedwoman · 05/10/2025 18:04

SEmyarse · 04/10/2025 17:12

Tbf my phone is really chunky due to having to have a rugged one for work, but I'd hate to feel tied to it anyway

For 10 yrs I was first point of contact for my mum and carers/care home. Never go anywhere without my phone.

Catwalking · 05/10/2025 18:05

I take mine on walks, to photograph all sorts; from my cats footprints to buzzard standing in a field!
I forget to take it shopping tho, which is daft as i might have points to spend?
Torch can be useful in odd places too…

Elle2018 · 05/10/2025 18:06

SEmyarse · 04/10/2025 17:06

Every time there's a discussion about civil liberties, for instance at the moment with ID cards, people always say, why are you worried they can track you by your phone anyway. But that implies that people are always carrying their phones.

I have a phone, I have to for work, and it's very useful outside work as well. I sometimes use it for navigation, and on certain instances I might take it with me if there's a chance I'll need to liaise with someone while out. Super helpful technology.

But surely people aren't taking it to the shops, or on the school run, or out for a walk in the countryside?

I’m assuming OP that you of an older generation, my mother (I’m 48) has only just converted to having a mobile and it spends its life on the kitchen side. I, however, use mine as a phone, satnav, bank card, camera etc etc. I’ve never not got it with me.

DingDongJingle · 05/10/2025 18:06

JennyShaw · 05/10/2025 17:46

So the only two alternatives in your mind is a public payphone and a smartphone. Has anyone explained to her that she can have a cheap small phone that means she can make phone calls and texts, is easier to use and doesn't require charging every day?

The poster said she’s happy with an iPhone. So why should she want to change it because a stranger on the internet thinks she would? My grandmother knows what all different types of communication devices exist. She chooses an iPhone.
People seem to think on here that people over 80 can’t make decisions for themselves!

JennyShaw · 05/10/2025 18:09

Slcalohaj · 05/10/2025 17:40

So they should force on their mother a different phone they’re not used to and don’t want and may not suit their needs, including in an emergency (ie hey siri) 🙄

No, they shouldn't say that they're glad that their mother has an iPhone for safety, then when someone points out that it might not be the safest option, they reply that safety isn't that important, that the most important thing is that they do what they please. Of course old people should do what they please, but there is informed decision making. The non-smart mobile phones are cheap, having one by your bedside or on the floor turned off is sensible, and they can have a smartphone too.

DingDongJingle · 05/10/2025 18:10

JennyShaw · 05/10/2025 18:09

No, they shouldn't say that they're glad that their mother has an iPhone for safety, then when someone points out that it might not be the safest option, they reply that safety isn't that important, that the most important thing is that they do what they please. Of course old people should do what they please, but there is informed decision making. The non-smart mobile phones are cheap, having one by your bedside or on the floor turned off is sensible, and they can have a smartphone too.

She didn’t give any indication that her mother has any issue with charging her phone, so I can’t see what the safety issue is.

Slcalohaj · 05/10/2025 18:11

JennyShaw · 05/10/2025 18:09

No, they shouldn't say that they're glad that their mother has an iPhone for safety, then when someone points out that it might not be the safest option, they reply that safety isn't that important, that the most important thing is that they do what they please. Of course old people should do what they please, but there is informed decision making. The non-smart mobile phones are cheap, having one by your bedside or on the floor turned off is sensible, and they can have a smartphone too.

It’s just your opinion it’s not the safest option, it may be the safest option for them, it has lots of accessibility options a brick phone will not.

JennyShaw · 05/10/2025 18:13

DingDongJingle · 05/10/2025 18:06

The poster said she’s happy with an iPhone. So why should she want to change it because a stranger on the internet thinks she would? My grandmother knows what all different types of communication devices exist. She chooses an iPhone.
People seem to think on here that people over 80 can’t make decisions for themselves!

Does she know? Do you know? That's the whole point of a discussion. People assume that smartphones are the best thing without thinking about that. Of course she can do what the hell she likes. I'm not trying to make her do anything she doesn't want. I'm just trying to make people THINK.

EmpressaurusKitty · 05/10/2025 18:14

Missey85 · 05/10/2025 17:52

I take my phone everywhere with me, you never know when you'll need a phone 😊❤️

Is the heart emoji because you love your phone?

JennyShaw · 05/10/2025 18:16

Slcalohaj · 05/10/2025 18:11

It’s just your opinion it’s not the safest option, it may be the safest option for them, it has lots of accessibility options a brick phone will not.

Who said anything about 'brick phones'? That's not the proper term for what I'm talking about, although I realise that is something often said.

DingDongJingle · 05/10/2025 18:16

JennyShaw · 05/10/2025 18:13

Does she know? Do you know? That's the whole point of a discussion. People assume that smartphones are the best thing without thinking about that. Of course she can do what the hell she likes. I'm not trying to make her do anything she doesn't want. I'm just trying to make people THINK.

I can’t imagine that she’s got to her 80s without knowing that she can have a different type of phone. Apart from anything else I imagine that like many of us, she has developed from the older brick style phone, through to flip phones, then on to smart phones. I doubt she just went from nothing to an iPhone in her 80s.

Dinosaurhearmeroar · 05/10/2025 18:20

SEmyarse · 04/10/2025 17:09

That sounds really weird, I hate carrying stuff. Don't usually lock the door so I don't have to take keys

I’m afraid you are in the minority here.

Vynalbob · 05/10/2025 18:20

I'm rarely parted, often have a power bank handy just in case.

Surely out walking would be an ideal time to have it handy. See something dodgy = police; get lost = maps; see some georgous critter = camera

Been 25yrs since I left my door open.

Oldwmn · 05/10/2025 18:22

SEmyarse · 04/10/2025 17:06

Every time there's a discussion about civil liberties, for instance at the moment with ID cards, people always say, why are you worried they can track you by your phone anyway. But that implies that people are always carrying their phones.

I have a phone, I have to for work, and it's very useful outside work as well. I sometimes use it for navigation, and on certain instances I might take it with me if there's a chance I'll need to liaise with someone while out. Super helpful technology.

But surely people aren't taking it to the shops, or on the school run, or out for a walk in the countryside?

Yes, I do. My phone goes everywhere with me.

Oldwmn · 05/10/2025 18:22

SEmyarse · 04/10/2025 17:06

Every time there's a discussion about civil liberties, for instance at the moment with ID cards, people always say, why are you worried they can track you by your phone anyway. But that implies that people are always carrying their phones.

I have a phone, I have to for work, and it's very useful outside work as well. I sometimes use it for navigation, and on certain instances I might take it with me if there's a chance I'll need to liaise with someone while out. Super helpful technology.

But surely people aren't taking it to the shops, or on the school run, or out for a walk in the countryside?

Yes, I do. My phone goes everywhere with me.