Surely you don't carry your phone everywhere?

[SEmyarse]

Every time there's a discussion about civil liberties, for instance at the moment with ID cards, people always say, why are you worried they can track you by your phone anyway. But that implies that people are always carrying their phones.

I have a phone, I have to for work, and it's very useful outside work as well. I sometimes use it for navigation, and on certain instances I might take it with me if there's a chance I'll need to liaise with someone while out. Super helpful technology.

But surely people aren't taking it to the shops, or on the school run, or out for a walk in the countryside?

Out of curiousity, why do you need a smartphone at all if you leave it at home where you have a laptop and a chromebook? You can use audio on those.

I'm intrigued as to the point of having a smartphone, laptop, and chromebook... all as things used at home. Surely the laptop or chromebook would cover everything you need? No need for three devices?

I didn't get the smartphone out of choice, but due to a family emergency when I thought I might need it to be able to find accommodation quickly in a distant place. Still, I now find it useful for texting and a more mobile audio source in the house. I have laptop and chromebook for use in different rooms, wishing to leave them plugged in and not have to close the device for carrying (hinges on them fail quickly in my experience).

I use wired ear phones when I'm listening to audio and it's much easier to use my phone for that (stick it in my pocket while I'm going about my day).

I think I understand what you mean by this. But as a PP pointed out, it's similar for all forms of technology. Imagine suddenly having to live without a fridge/freezer, for example.

In your work situation I would have my personal phone on me, but only to listen to music or catch up on messages on my break (assuming it's not needed for satnav). The main reasons I carry it with me are not essential, unless driving when satnav is useful, but they are "nice to have" so I take it! Also as I don't use it for payment, I have to carry a purse so already have a bag with me so it's not awkwardly in a pocket. If I don't want to be instantly contactable by phone it's on silent. (But with the bonus that someone could message me and I'd see it at some point.)

Re. Work phone - if you have the charger plugged in it takes a second to stick the other end in the phone when you get in the car. Also there are power saving settings - my phone can last a day with constant use, and 4 days with very light use.

You don’t understand that having been raped in my own home, forcibly penetrated with penis and fingers in vagina and mouth, I want a device on me at all times that I can phone 999 from?

There’s markers on my house and work location and apps on my phone that link to these that will alert the police and my work security to where I am and they’re all flagged for immediate response.

the police minimum standard they hope for is 3 police cars to my address in less than 3 minutes as I’m at high risk of being murdered.

I’m sorry you feel I’m “unhealthy”.

Also. You live with others. I live alone. not presently, but most of the time.

ffs.

Being raped changed my outlook on a whole lot of things. Permanently.

Agree. I use my phone as a debit card, to listen to music, for directions, as a camera, and a million other uses.
Other than the OP the only person I know who don’t take there phone everywhere is my 83 year old dad. Even my 81 year old mum has hers with her at all times.

You may not get it OP but I’d say you’re the outlier

I take my phone everywhere but it's not a smartphone and it's just kept for emergencies really, I don't use it much, I've never been a phone fan.

I’m so sorry, @SupremeArbiter.

I’ve had a few urgent calls from my elderly dad, but that’s my only version of emergency. It’s sufficient though.

My phone is essential at the gym. I use it to follow my workout plan, time some exercises & listen to audio books to distract myself.

As someone said upthread, phone is the wrong name for them nowadays.

No. It’s not being worried that something is going to happen. I wear a seatbelt in my car, not because I’m convinced I’m going to crash every time I drive, but as a precaution. My car having airbags doesn’t make me worry that I’m going to crash. Locking my doors at night isn’t because I’m worried that I’m going to get burgled but because it’s sensible.

I have AppleCare Theft and Loss insurance that gets me a replacement phone very quickly. My phone is fully backed up to iCloud so I can restore it easily.

My biggest issue if I lose my phone is that it’s used for authenticating all my work accounts, so I can’t do my job without a phone.

Why do you think people are permanently worried something is going to happen? Being aware your phone would be a help if something did doesn’t equal constant entirety about it actually happen. Nobody is walking round fearing an emergency. They just know that if one happened they have an easy way to respond.

Report it missing, alert the bank.
Manage with physical methods of payment until it is found/replaced.
If replaced, sign into Apple ID and get all the stuff back automatically.
Pretty easy.
What’s your plan for you wallet/bag being stolen?

I do carry a backup payment card, and also my drivers license and my Health Savings Account payment card that for some reason won’t upload to Apple Wallet.

I don’t panic about losing everything stored on my phone because it is backed up so effectively - I can access a lot of it from my Mac, if I need to.

I do wonder how I would do my job without it, but that would be something my IT dept would have to solve for me until my replacement phone arrived.

Interesting questions on here.

Of course we are. How will I pay for anything without my phone, for a start?

This thread has really shocked me if I’m honest. I’m utterly baffled by the rage and… I don’t know, it seems like disgust(!) at the OP.
Its actually made me want to have my phone on me less because having read some of the sneering, accusatory, ageist, patronising comments I don’t think I like what happens to people who are never without theirs.

They SAY they will get you a replacement phone quickly. Insurers are getting harder to deal with, to the point that WHICH? (consumer organisation) are taking out a group legal action against them.

My family has never had any issue getting iPhones repaired or replaced through AppleCare.

Good question. I would alert the bank, meanwhile manage with cash I keep just in case. I don't carry a bag except for groceries. I conceal the wallet as best I can on my person. There's a good Youtube video on securing your wallet to your body, which I'll try to find again.

I conceal my phone well on my person. It’s no more likely to be stolen than a purse is, and if I did happen to lose it or have it stolen I’d follow the same process that I would have done if my bag had been stolen previously. Alert the insurance company and my bank.

What plan do I need? I go on my iPad or log onto my iCloud account and lock it down. I’ll have my watch which I can still use to pay and drive my car even without my phone. Then buy a new phone and sync it to my iCloud.
It’s not complicated.

I’m interested to read more about Which’s legal action against AppleCare. Do you have a link?

It's not against AppleCare specifically. Here's the link

www.which.co.uk/news/article/which-launches-insurance-super-complaint-aJK2b1K3M55T

So actually none of it was relevant to my post about using AppleCare.

I take my phone so I don’t have to take all the other stuff.

bank card
car key
maps
torch
camera
etc