How can you cook meals in a shower?

[LaMarschallin]

Just that.

Sigh. My post of 15.48 has a video of the Copthorne. My post of 15.56 has pictures of the Bell Hotel.

I've looked up the Novotel Heathrow, it used to be a basic 3*, there are no pictures of what it looks like now, beyond this video of a non-functioning tap.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ZREpRdNrBsE

So you're saying instead of cooking their own food they should either eat the rotten food and get sick or leave the country?

Would you eat rotten food? Why do you think you are worth more? Because from where I'm standing, I don't see it.

I heard the radio programme too and wondered how they cooked food in the shower. You asked a perfectly reasonable question. I knew what you meant immediately.
What if you just kept replying "listen to the programme" in the way these posters are saying "read the article"? Luckily you are most patient, polite and intelligent than them.

Some of those featured in the programme have been in the UK for nine years pursuing multiple appeals. It's not as simple as 'speeding up a system'.

I don't think I'm worth more but I'm a net tax contributor and not being funded by others.

Up to them if they choose to provide their own food. They shouldn't be complaining about their reasons for doing so.

Btw the person in the article complained that it was chicken nuggets and chips, not that it was mouldy.

We also have an elderly couple in the article both with health problems - presumably another burden on the health care system

The radio programme was clear that many of them are working cash in hand illegally, hence the extra food and smartphones that the reporter said are commonplace (the Home Office give them basic phones that can make calls, but have no data).

I think Germany has stopped refugee claims (including requests for family members to join) from Syria, as the conflict has stopped - or at the very least, drastically reduced in intensity.

If Sky News turn up asking about the food they're eating, they should lie and say it's tasty and not making them sick just so that they're not complaining?

And are you really a net contributor? If you have kids and earn the average salary, it's highly unlikely you're a net contributor.

I suggest you do a little more independent research. I hazard a guess that your search terms are " terrible conditions in migrant hotel ", and up pops a video of a leaking tap to support your bias.

I have done my research and posted three hotels to you, with either links, a video or photos.

And what have you provided? Zilch.

Yes don't worry I am certain I am a net contributor.

There are my nuances between complaining and being gracious even if things aren't perfect.

The complaints.just show their entitlement. They were sold a place on a boat to the land of riches and are now complaining it's not good enough.

Some of these posts show why I liked the interview. She managed to talk to people and get more insight then the usual Sky or otherwise coverage.

Probably because she’s got to know people and had been invited inside.

Thank you so much.

What if you just kept replying "listen to the programme" in the way these posters are saying "read the article"?

Don't think it hasn't crossed my mind...
But I don't want to sink to their level.

And I probably should have investigated more before starting this thread.

You're very kind to say I'm patient...have to confess that my patience is wearing thin.
I hope I'm the other two compliments though - thank you 😊

Anyone thinking refugees are staying in 'naice' hotels is spending too much time with the Telegraph and Daily Mail.

What might have been a 4* hotel 20 years ago sure as hell isn't one now. Whole families confined to two small rooms, no space to play or exercise, no facilities to make food (except illegally in the bathroom) while being fed the cheapest, lowest quality mass produced food and shifted around from place to place.

Having £9.95 a week, or working illegally for £2 an hour to pay back the people traffickers who profiteered from your desperation.

It's a shit situation. No one is living the life of riley in these hotels. It's not room service and turndown service with a chocolate of the pillow, it's the bare bones of basic. And it's rundown as all hell.

In the BBC article, the man says the chips and nuggets make them ill.
In the Sky News video, the woman says the food gives them diarrhoea.

Neither of these statements show 'entitlement'. They are just answering questions the journos have asked them. What do you want them to say? That the food is amazing?

You have to be pretty stone hearted to begrudge people basic edible food. Remember that many of these people are used to cooking from scratch, even if it's just basics like potatoes and lentils. Mass produced chicken nuggets (which are probably 10% chicken) and chips are not nutritious food and will affect a child's development.

You wouldn't feed your own child junk all the time, and no matter who you are or what you earn or what tax you pay, your child is not worth more than an asylum seeker's child.

The point is it's not really the UK tax payers problem.

They've been refused asylum twice but going in for that third round third time lucky maybe?

If conditions are so awful I question why they keep having more children.

If there was conscription tomorrow like for the second world war I can't imagine many of these young male asylum seeks would stay to fight.

They'd scurry back 'home' quicker than rats off a sinking ship.

The French are known for their cooking - perhaps they should have stayed there

It’s hard to build an accurate picture of the hotels. I mean even when looking for somewhere you get hit with images of shabby stuff. It’s the internet.

The reality of what it’s like would need more interviews such as the R4 one. Presumably why it has got the attention, it’s quite rare.

Maybe the UK shouldn't have bombed his country Iraq on sexed up WMD accusations?

Of course people are going to appeal if they're allowed to.

And they've had one child born in the UK, which is hardly a lot in 9 years. If they had waited to the UK to make up their mind, it might be too late.

You think the rats who follow Tommy would fight? The only fighting they do is beat up their wives and target 14 year old boys seeking asylum. And the poor Asian girl raped two weeks ago by far right goons.

And where are you getting your insider information from, pray tell? Who has told you families have no space to exercise? Who is confining them to their rooms? Why do you assume the food is all low quality and inedible? It's exactly the same food provided to hospital wards; might not be to your ' taste ', but if it's good enough for the old and sick....I don't see a problem with that.

There was a lady on one of those super-scrimper programmes who would cook lasagna in her dishwasher

and given that they were saying that there is absolutely nothing for them to do all day - some in the article had been in the hotel for NINE YEARS - perhaps they could get the residents able to get involved in running a kitchen for each other. It seemed they were making chickpea stews when she had dinner with them, and probably fresh breads. Far more healthy and quite likely far cheaper too.

I imagine that yes, some people are making an absolute killing on this, the same as the people who are basically charging whatever they want to provide children's homes, because councils are obliged to pay. leaving bugger all money in the council for other services.

Whenever there is an obligation you can be sure there is an 'entrepreneur' waiting to milk the system dry.

It's in the article people are discussing:

The hotels were never intended to be used like this. The rooms look smart on review sites on the internet - with sofas, televisions, double beds, ensuite bathrooms. Everything is there, and you would be pleased if one was yours for a couple of nights.

What the pictures don't show is the wear-and-tear and the build-up of possessions that come from continuous occupancy over months and years.

At the hotels housing families, I am struck by the number of prams in the reception areas, and by how many babies and toddlers there are. With little or no communal space, younger children are left to play in empty corridors.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwy8ee2w73jo