How can you cook meals in a shower?

[LaMarschallin]

Just that.

Can you absolutely see that? What part of if screams families are taking the piss?

Where would you say is better?

I will say tho OP you are continuing to reply to posts like mine with courtesy so fair play to you ☺️

The people taking the piss are the overpaid, incompetent leaders of the land. The government is weak and cannot make firm decisions. Something is seriously wrong when asylum seekers / immigrants stay here for a decade because they can appeal decisions. The longer they stay here, the more time they have to have babies here and can’t be sent back / deported. Its no wonder they all want to come here but the ones who are really taking the piss are the ones in government.

They’re are plenty of British born people who are homeless on the streets, surviving on the goodwill of food banks. I’m sure some of them wouldn’t mind living in a hotel indefinitely. But who really cares about them? It’s not the government.

They are penalising British born people to pay for the hotels and inadequate food. Will they pay for renovations and refurbishment when they go up in smoke?

The government will claw in the money however then can. It makes sense now why they were so keen to cut the winter fuel payments for the elderly. Money is needed to be spent elsewhere.

When my grandfather arrived in the UK as a jewish refugee fleeing the Nazi regime he was separated from his wife and children and interned as an enemy alien in a hellhole of a prison camp whilst waiting for his tribunal hearing. And you know what, he was just very grateful not go have been murdered in the gas chambers at Auschwitz like most of his siblings and their families

I used to raise an eyebrow to suggestions that asylum seekers were living in 4 and 5 star hotels, believing it to be hyperbolic nonsense. The main stream media weren't reporting this so it had to be made up crap, designed to get the public frothing and creating ill feeling. Until I went down the you tube rabbit hole that is. Look it up - countless documentaries on it, some undercover. We're being lied to. Not only are the hotels luxurious but the majority of residents ARE working, evidenced by the number of deliveroo bikes. Security just turn a blind eye. Yoga classes, arts and craft, tau chi, gymnastics.... ALL free on site. Gps/ nurses all attend daily. Why is msm not reporting any of this?

Yes, it was daft.
Hopefully you've read my posts acknowledging my daftness.

I listened to the File on Four documentary yesterday and am torn between shock at just how ineptly the Home Office is managing the migrant issue, and anger at the behaviour and attitudes of some of the migrants. The huge backlog in processing and failure to consult with local authorities when opening migrant hotels is playing directly into the hands of the right, and hides discourse on the multiple benefits of legal migration and Britain's long tradition of welcoming those fleeing war, torture and persecution.

Now, to add to the striking image of migrants in inflatable boats crossing the Channel, we have single mothers who have given birth since arriving in the UK, people cooking in the shower because they don't like the food on offer, £600 taxi bills that the Home Office only knows about because of the BBC, and migrants who don't like the hotel in which they have been housed.

All of this reinforces my view that the Home Office doesn't know exactly who has come into the UK and where they are. Shabana Mahmood seems to have far more of a grip than her predecessors, thank goodness.

Do you mean The Telegraph article about the supposedly luxurious migrant hotel? So when you say 'countless documentaries' you mean one video?

Here is the hotel in question. It wasn't even 4* five years ago! It's basically a Travelodge.

Just trying to explain what I thought when I heard Radio 4 this morning: I was thinking it was about something like cooking Pot Noodles. It's why I contribute easily cookable things to my church food bank. However I thought people would have access to kettles so couldn't see why people would need hot water from showers.
Now (having read the article - did I mention I read the article? Yes, I did. I also cancelled the cheque...Geddit?) I understand it's people using shower trays as a base.
Sorry, that sounds irritable but I am irritated by posters misreading my intention in starting this thread.
And, yes I should have explained what I meant. Sorry! I'm really sorry!

And I should have read the article

So what's your point? That we should put asylum seekers in prison camps?

Would your grandfather have liked that?

And here is the asylum hotel at the centre of the protests in Epping (The Bell Hotel). Where is the luxury, do tell?

You seem to be suggesting that desperate people should be grateful and shut-up, if living a fraction of a life of existence. No one should be grateful for having their lives turned upside down (often by our government's intervention) and then be given crumbs.

The life led in hotels isn't desirable, and I'm sure these poor people want to move forwards with their lives in a meaningful way.

Your Jewish refugee ancestors were looked on with great sympathy. Might you care to extend the same sympathy forwards?

@sundaychairtree

Absolutely this. There is no gratitude. I can't understand why not - I would be falling over myself to thank the host nation and it's people should I be given sanctuary. Instead, there is an all pervading arrogance of entitlement. The chucking of fag butts out of Windows, litter strewn everywhere, complaints about food, gripes about accommodation, the blatant disregard for the laws around working, the ignoring of h&s legislation : none of these things foster a feeling of goodwill.

And you've cherry picked one hotel. That tells us nothing, other than 1 hotel has grimy window frames. Look up the copthorne, Sussex for contrast.

The first video I posted IS the Copthorne in Sussex.

Sure, it doesn't look like a cockroach infested hell hole, but it looks like a 2 star Travelodge.

It's typical 'pull up the drawbridge' mentality.

Thought you said it was the bell, Epping? Which is it?

If I was fleeing a war torn county and my family had been safe, housed, fed, educated, legally represented and medicated for 10 years at no expense to myself then I would like to think I would show some gratitude to the host nation and not moan about the food on offer or the safe dry accomodation I was staying in.

I'd love to know just how much that one family has cost this country.

#pisstake

I fear the lack of gratitude from some is because they are not fleeing torture, persecution or war. Little exposure is given to migrants who have been given asylum and who are eloquent and articulate when speaking of the UK.

Are you seriously not getting that I've posted two videos?

• My post of 15.48 is a video about the The Copthorne, Sussex, which was described as 'luxury' hotel by the Telegraph but it is definitely not that. It shows that the room, whilst clean and tidy, is hardly luxurious.
• My post at 15.56 shows the Bell Hotel, in Epping, which the locals have been protesting about. It's a very basic hotel that I suspect we couldn't pay you to stay at.

If you are aware of a different, supposedly luxurious migrant hotel, please do post a link.

you've posted no such videos. Take a look at the novotel Heathrow - not up to standard for you?

Have you see the food? I wouldn't feed it to a dog. It's giving them diarrhoea and other stomach problems. The GP in this video says 1/10 have stomach issues due to the food and some of the children aren't putting on weight.

Every parent wants their child to have safe food to eat. Hence the asylum seekers using their meagre £10pw to cook their own food.

Is your idea of gratitude that they should eat food that makes them sick?

They're not obliged to stay....
The family in the article have been denied asylum twice and are appealing for a third time. Perhaps because they've been her so long they think 'we' owe them

I stand by my previous post.

If I was fleeing for my life and I was safe, I would be grateful. Perhaps the reason they're not is because they're economic migrants and things aren't quite as good here as they thought they'd be.