Use of paracetamol in pregnancy and autism: Trump

[MidnightPatrol]

Trump is expected to announce later today that there is a link between paracetamol use in pregnancy, and autism.

As with his approach to covid, scientists have reacted with dismay at this development - a major Swedish study published in 2024 looked at 2.48m births and found no link.

A bit of a worrying development in terms of medical misinformation, pregnant women’s access to pain relief, and those with autism (and their parents).

This means giving (at least) 3 times the number of vaccinations and spacing them out, thus increasing the risk of contracting the diseases the vaccines were developed to prevent.

Or the TL:DL...

They said the studies that did show a link didn't control for other factors. E.g Like, older mothers might be more likely to need pain relief during pregnancy.

More to do with international politics and tariffs than concern for women methinks!

Not only are is the announcement saying that the use of paracetamol during pregnancy causes autism but that there's a way autism can be reversed.

Dear sweet Williams 🏵️

Urgh. The Tangerine Twat strikes again.

I can't believe anyone with even a single lonely brain cell rattling around in their head actually believes a word that comes out of his mouth

I wonder what she took afterwards once she knew what a thick idiot he was

I'm surprised at the rush to dismiss the idea out of hand.

The idea at the time was that having all the jabs at the same time (combining measles, mumps, rubella into MMR) increased the risks because it overloaded the babies’ system. This theory has been debunked.
I only mentioned it to show that I’m the sort of person who is cautious - so if someone tells me my unborn baby might be damaged by something I avoid it - even if I don’t really believe the danger exists.

I assumed this was the point, surely, as it makes no sense other than as another way to harm women.

It's true.

A screen shot won't do. We need a link so we can look at things like peer review and methodology.

I don't believe paracetamol causes autism. I've 3 children that are diagnosed with ASD and guess what? I didn't take paracetamol at all during those 3 pregnancies.

Well I have a profoundly disabled child - non-genetic (it’s assumed)cause given full WES testing without having had alcohol or paracetamol in pregnancy (she has presumed autism still waiting for diagnosis), and both my nieces (sister’s) are diagnosed as autistic, both my brother and his two sons diagnosed with ADHD (possibly ASD too but they are not close to me enough to know) - no alcohol or paracetamol in those pregnancies either.
Probably at least 3 of my mum’s children (I include me) would have been diagnosed with ASD had there been testing “back then” - my mother barely drank at Christmas let alone regularly and categorically didn’t take any medication of any kind (extremely paranoid) in pregnancy except for a prescribed injection course of a problematic drug (with me).
To be ASD and ADHD seems to have a likely genetic component and anything else has a vanishingly unlikely causative link to autism in families with higher occurrence of ASD.

Not really. If you spoke to Health Professionals at the time, we were strongly advising parents not to pay for separate vaccinations privately for the reasons above. Unfortunately, the Wakefield lies took hold amongst some parents.

I think it’s very important to a certain type of man that mothers should be to blame for their children’s diagnoses, and also that women should ‘bring forth children in suffering’ or whatever the quote is.

All women of child bearing age will likely now face questions in the US when buying a simple OTC painkiller.

Google it, like I did. You'll see it pop up. Look into it.

Cocaine, ketamine, methamphetamine.

If I were pregnant in the US now but not yet showing, I'd be buying up some supplies of Tylenol!

The BBC headline really annoyed me on this - it implies that some experts think there is a link www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx20d4lr67lo. It should categorically say that it's bollocks, which the MHRA has done: https://www.gov.uk/government/news/mhra-confirms-taking-paracetamol-during-pregnancy-remains-safe-and-there-is-no-evidence-it-causes-autism-in-children

This is very clearly about controlling women.

Most pregnant women try to avoid medication while pregnant but sometimes you just feel too rubbish, or have a high temperature and then you need to do something about it. A high temperature isn't good for the baby.

This is the study by the way: https://hsph.harvard.edu/news/using-acetaminophen-during-pregnancy-may-increase-childrens-autism-and-adhd-risk/

The researchers noted that while steps should be taken to limit acetaminophen use, the drug is important for treating maternal fever and pain, which can also harm children. “We recommend judicious acetaminophen use—lowest effective dose, shortest duration—under medical guidance, tailored to individual risk-benefit assessments, rather than a broad limitation,” they wrote.

However, this one says the opposite :https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2817406 Acetaminophen use during pregnancy was not associated with children’s risk of autism, ADHD, or intellectual disability in sibling control analyses. This suggests that associations observed in other models may have been attributable to confounding.

I’m not sure anyone’s feeding him this rubbish. I reckon he thinks it up all by himself - with his superior intellect.

What if you had a fever? There is more evidence about the dangers of fever in pregnancy than there is about paracetamol. And you can’t take ibuprofen.

I hate the narrative that autism is wrong and something to be ‘cured’. Autism is a spectrum and most people with autistic traits live full and productive lives. They are not a problem to be solved.

I’m going to be monitoring my autistic son’s news consumption very carefully over the next few days and thinking hard about how to frame this story with him. Fortunately, the fact that the main protagonist has a worm growing in his brain will probably give him all the explanation he needs for this farce.

So when you were pregnant or during child bearing years, did you take paracetamol?

Yes, it's ridiculous to go on about eradicating it when most people with autism are living pretty normal lives. As you say, how is this going to make people with autism feel?

You want to be wary of the ideas people put out there. Especially when those people are loons with no expertise like RFK and DT.😬