Right wing cancel culture at it again.

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This really is a scary time for free speech.

Another example right wing hypocrisy when it comes to free speech:

Jimmy Kimmel Live! suspended indefinitely after host’s Charlie Kirk comments https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2025/sep/18/jimmy-kimmel-live-suspended-indefinitely-after-hosts-charlie-kirk-comments?CMP=share_btn_url

Thanks for that. I wasn't aware of the specifics so appreciate knowing how it all came about. Interesting that social media now has that power on steroids.

Whatever someone thinks of Charlie Kirk, and I'm not sure the immediate aftermath of his gruesome murder and the widowing of his wife and trauma for his small children is the time to voice it, I do think it was a political assassination.

I think it's likely it was his opinion that men can't be women - which is a political position as well as basic obvious reality of course - was the reason he was shot.

He was shot and killed immediately after being asked a question about trans shooters. That's one hell of a coincidence when the shooter has a trans boyfriend.

Hopefully in time we'll find out the truth, but just because you don't like someone's opinions does not mean they can't be politically assassinated.

I also think the shooter sounds very much like libertarian not a socialist or anarchist. Which is a socially liberal far right movement. He was still very pro gun, pro business... he just didn't want individual freedoms curtailed and was particularly interested in gay and trans rights apparently...
Trying to make this a left v right thing is very disingenuous. That's not the whole picture of police thought particularly in the US where libertarianism is very in vogue.

People have no understanding of what they are saying when they bandy the word liberal about. You can be socially liberal and far right- libertarian.. you can be socially liberal and far left. You can be economically liberal and socially conservative... and so on and so on... loads of different ways that interacts.
So yes people can be right wing but very into trans issues.
I don't think this guy was looking to nationalise the railways you know what I mean!!

I am really shocked and a bit depressed at how many posters here are using the trans debate to say ‘haha! Serves you right’ when someone on the left gets cancelled.
Cancel culture is terrible - whichever side of the political spectrum you are on.
just the word ‘cancelled’ is terrible and not without historical precedent. Stalinist Russia used the phrase ‘enemy of the people’ freely, as did nazi germany. (I shudder when I remember that terrible daily Mail headline ‘enemies of the people’ after the high court ruling on brexit). Stalin used the word ‘purged’ a lot. Nazi Germans had ‘outlawed/outcast’ as a generic term.
from what I’ve read Kimmell didn’t celebrate Kirk’s death at all. He just criticised the right for making political hay with it.

Surely you must remember the power it held during Covid?

Then you haven't read anything. He declared the assassin was a Maga, not someone from the left wing.

It could have caused violence in the streets but but conservatives have jobs to go to.

Except no-one on here has said they’re glad he’s dead. People are just using that line to shut down any discussion of the person he was.

And people will bring up the person he was because his death has been made so public. And the only reason why his murder was made so public is because of the person he was.

After all, if all anyone said was “such a shame for the family” the discussion would have ended on the night he died. The same as all the other shootings in the US which barely make the news because they’re a daily occurrence.

But he was Trump’s mate and happened to be killed just as the pressure was heating up over the Epstein files. So it’s convenient to make a big deal out of Charlie Kirk having been shot, because it takes the heat off of Trump. However, making it so public means that people will talk about the kind of person he was. Because you can’t have a discussion without discussing the actual person.

Strawman. I never said I didn't know social media had power rather I didn’t know the particulars of that genocide relating to social media.

Perhaps you should read the judgment from Miller Vs the College of Policing regarding NCHI.

Hate crime laws can be weaponised to create a "chilling effect" which stifles free speech. That is what has been happening for years, many if us pointed out the likely unintended consequence of this and now here we are with someone experiencing consequences for nothing very much.

Be careful what you wish for.

I don't think it's cancel culture. I think Kimmel likely breached his employment terms.

What Kimmel did is many many times worse, especially given his platform and the victims affected, than women saying 'men can't be women' but women (and men) have actually been arrested for saying this, not just fired. And many many hundreds if not thousands have been fired for holding that opinion despite NOT breaching their employment terms and in fact acting within the law the entire time, their employer breaking the law, but there being no consequences because it's David vs Goliath.

I think Kimmel will probably survive and live very well if he never works again. The same cannot be said of the women (and children) harmed because they don't think men can be women.

Bit like the actual police and then the nedia talking publicly about the 'trans' roommate.. I cannot believe they did that as the roomate wasn't involved and they have now put a person's life at risk. This person's name is now everywhere.
It makes you think there was a political agenda to a lot of the reporting... they don't care they are putting people in danger or drumming up division they just want a good story that supports their views

As well they should be.
However, if they were not also in despair when the Biden administration pressured SM platforms to remove comment on Covid-19 and the 2020 election, thus breaching the constitutional right to free speech, then they are part of the problem. One court case connected to the Democrat government interference (they ‘won’), resulted in overturning an injunction limiting communications between social media companies and government officials. Unintended consequences, when someone considered to be the ‘baddie’ gets to do the same.
Definitely be in despair about the erosion of our democratic (and constitutional) rights, but don’t fall for the lie that we’re only in danger from one side.

No he didn't. You clearly haven't bothered watching the clip.
He said that Maga was desperately trying to distance itself from him.

Um, its not as if the laws are vague or unknown.

You act as people can't tell the difference between speech that is demonising & dehumanising & not.

Rising government debt, softening of the labour market, decrease in retail sales, decrease in house prices, value of the dollar continuing to slide, stock market only just returning to levels at the start of his term but still lower than under Biden or Obama. Looks to be peachy over there.

Meanwhile:

Trump has fired the statistician in charge of the jobs market report because the numbers didn't say what he wanted. Trying to fire the head of the Fed beacuse they also won't do as he wants.

He's removed funding from universities who won't kowtow to his influence in their delivery

Illegally sending the National Guard into states against the wishes of the State Governor yet not doing so when there is a literal, actual insurrection (Jan 6th)

Removing members of the media who hold him accountable and/or whose opinions he doesn't like

Using his office for personal enrichment (selling facetime to those who purchase his brand of crypto)

Due process? What's that when you can just annihilate lives (Venezualan boats)

All sounds quite fascist, dictatory to me...

I have never seen any crime report of such a serious crime where the alleged perpetrators family isn't mentioned. This is basic investigative journalism.

The idea that we're not allowed to know anything about a killer's life and family is quite worrying - police state.

Take Rudakabana (Southport killer), his parents have been discussed at length. As well as teachers, the referrals to prevent etc. All those who interacted with him, basically.

And of course in a case like this the law enforcement would be remiss in their duties if they did not consider that the roomate / boyfriend could be involved.

She knows but the denial is strong in that one…

WOW. Listen to yourself.

I am shocked by this one as his jokes were really mild and more aimed at Donald Trump. There was no punching down or incitement to violence... it does seem very much like he's been fired for just mildly offending the president.

That. I've just watched his segment and the couple of lines about about the killer were absolutely mild. He mainly focused on Trumps responses to bring asked how he felt about his friends death, which were to talk about his new ballroom.

He was not cancelled because of anything he said about the victim or the killer. He's clearly been cancelled for mocking the president

And it's full scale DARVO to suggest that people talking about a high profile crime in a normal way are putting someone at risk. Nope, his boyfriend who has been arrested for allegedly shooting and killing someone in a public forum in cold blood put him at risk if anyone did.

False. His employer was threatened by a government regulatory body to take their licence (Drumph) so they had no choice.

How does this help?

Laughs out loud. You clearly haven't watched it

"The Maga Gang desperately trying to characterise this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them"

Comprehension fail. Kimmel did not say the kid was MAGA. He said MAGA was attempting to distance themselves from him which they were.

It doesn't matter if Kimmel said Tyler Robinson was left-leaning, right-leaning or a little green man on the moon. You're generally allowed to say incorrect things under free speech principles. This is why, say, Alex Jones, could spout crazy conspiracy theories or RFK can say tylenol causes autism.

The problem here is the rep of Fed govt regulatory agency who threatened to suspend the broadcaster's license or otherwise make their business Hell, especially within minutes of the offending broadcast... The Feds shouldn't use regulatory mechanisms to intimidate away Free Speech.

Literally "Out of the Authoritarian Playbook"

"Free Speech Rights only for us not for People we Disagree with."