Right wing cancel culture at it again.

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This really is a scary time for free speech.

Another example right wing hypocrisy when it comes to free speech:

Jimmy Kimmel Live! suspended indefinitely after host’s Charlie Kirk comments https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2025/sep/18/jimmy-kimmel-live-suspended-indefinitely-after-hosts-charlie-kirk-comments?CMP=share_btn_url

To stand up there and definitively state the shooter was a MAGA supporter was at best irresponsible.

Yep

Yes, it was misinformation based on what Kimmel would have liked to have been true.

I think there's a big difference between general statements of political opinion and a situation where a man has been killed and left a wife and children utterly traumatised. Kimmel had no consideration for the victims with what he said. Yes, there's a political element but he didn't show a basic level of respect to the victims of a crime right after it happened. Which shows a basic lack of humanity.

People who are on TV should be held to a high standard of behaviour in their workplace and should get fired if they breach their workplace behaviour standards. He's not being arrested at gunpoint by 5 armed police officers for what he's said, his employer has just taken action against him presumably as he's breached the terms of his employment contract.

Hate speech laws have been in place since 1986. That you didn't have a 'genocide' before that might have something to do with the predominant cultural & political forces not being favourable to one.

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Yes exactly we’ve managed culturally without overuse of something like NCHI

It’s actually amazing to me that Kimmel hasn’t already been cancelled. His long history of racist and misogynistic jokes is quite something, as is his past use of blackface.

Kimmel lied because he knew before his show that the murderer is very left-leaning and he still spouted the "right-wing" crap.

Funny how libbies didn't care and crowed with pride when Tucker Carlson got cancelled and when Trump got removed from TikTok. It has, sadly, become quite apparent that the "rules for thee but not for me" crowd has become a bit upset now that they are seeing the consequences for THEIR actions. I guess it was more fun when they were the ones doing the firing and cancelling.

Tough cookies, as paybacks are, as they say, a b!tch.

I see the gender debate as primarily a dispute within the left. Very late on, the right took notice and picked the only side they could have. So lazy commenters and journalists saw that and relabelled the whole gender critical side as right wing.

Speak for yourselves please. We don’t all wish to be America’s lapdogs - look at the lengths Starmer is going to appease a fascist dictator of a US in decline. So much for getting your country back.

Well I think the point he was making is no one actually knows yet what he was (beyond somewhat deranged, which anyone who decides to shoot strangers is). What we do know would suggest to me that it’s less about partisan politics and more about personal affront/feeling attacked. He had a trans partner, he saw someone who promoted an anti trans agenda as an enemy and he shot him. His family are republicans but that doesn’t mean any of them are extreme right wing anyway. They described him as leaning more to the left but specifically in the context of trans/gay rights so really who the hell knows. It seems to me like trans rights isn’t a left vs right issue really. It’s been picked up and used as a political football by both sides (at least it has in the UK) and it’s now a horrendous, toxic area with lots of unpleasant rhetoric on both sides. Try suggesting any kind of pragmatic compromise anywhere on social media and you have the joy of being told how awful you are by campaigners on both sides. Similarly the whole gun debate in the US is often framed as Left vs Right but it doesn’t seem like it’s truly that clear cut. A lot of our US team tend to be right leaning politically (a lot are in Ohio/Kentucky) but plenty of them are pro gun control.
I knew who Charlie Kirk was before this and actively disliked him. I similarly actively dislike both Trump and Vance but then I also really can’t stand Jeremy Corbyn and Owen Jones in spite of being largely left leaning. I have no desire for any of them to be assassinated and I wouldn’t celebrate any of their deaths but equally if they all died tomorrow it wouldn’t make me particularly sad and on the whole I feel like the world would be a bit better off overall with less people who are that uncompromising in their beliefs and that keen to push to try and enforce them on others (well Trump is different - I’m not sure he genuinely has any strong beliefs)

Well said, but the MAGA can’t see it or want an autocrat to rule them. They all speak with the same diction. It’s scary stuff.

@Phatgurslyms The US is in decline?! I suggest you take a look at some of the key economic statistics of the US versus the UK in the past few years. And stop calling Trump a fascist dictator and instead perhaps study some actual fascist dictators instead.

Liberated from what exactly? What an absolute load of bollocks.

Far Left Liberalism and that hate that comes with it.

Freedom of speech isn't freedom from consequences however I am shocked by this one as his jokes were really mild and more aimed at Donald Trump. There was no punching down or incitement to violence... it does seem very much like he's been fired for just mildly offending the president. Which is obviously worrying. Comedians should not be losing their jobs due to making jokes about the people in charge.. thats a slippery slope for free speech indeed.

I know sometimes people whinge about Comedians tours getting 'cancelled' for right wing content, but 9 times out of 10 the tours been cancelled because it just couldn't sell enough tickets! I mean you can say what you like but you can't force people to listen.
This with Kimmel seems very different though because he's immensely popular. It really does seem like it was done out of fear of the government which is very unsettling. I doubt most of the viewers of that show would be offended by his jokes.

Hes not been cancelled though. He'll be absolutely fine in terms of his career.
I do worry about the impact on free speech if tv companies are forced to only air views the president agrees with though.. thats what I find unsettling

And dangerous.

My opinion is this.

Charlie Kirk was not a force for good. He used controversial speech to build himself a platform and a large bank account. Debating and baiting students when you are a grown adult is weak and shows that you are not above “punching down”.

He is not a matyr for free speech or politically assassinated. He was publicly murdered for a reason we don’t know yet, and may never know. So it’s all speculation.

BUT, he did not deserve to be shot at or die. No one has the right to take another persons life in civil society no matter how heinous they think the other person is.

The current US president has said far worse which people have supported, but that doesn’t mean everyone has to stoop that low. Kimmel was irresponsible with his speech, he should be checked but not cancelled.

And when exactly has this country been governed by far left liberalism? I'm intrigued to know

You clearly have no idea what you are talking about. Liberalism isn't far left. The far left are not liberal. Stop conflating massively different political ideologies.

And the uk is slightly right of centre with some socialist public institutions such as the NHS. What on earth are you talking about 'freeing us from the far left?'
Do you mean you accidentally saw a Ken Loach film on the BBC once and its made you feel attacked?
You need to get a grip.

That's a Salto Dismount.

Why, exactly, does pointing out that Charlie Kirk was a horrible person equate to celebrating his death? Where on MN has anyone said they’re glad he’s dead? Oh wait, they haven’t.

You must have missed the first MN thread in the immediate aftermath of the shooting that had to be deleted because of the celebrating.

Laughing.
''Hope it hurt.''
''His kids will be better off without him.''
''FAFO.''

It went beyond simply criticizing Kirk's opinions, loads of posters were absolutely gleeful and justifying the public execution of him. It was revolting.

A fair assessment, but it’s too much to ask of DT not to act like an impetulent child. He was never shown how to emotionally regulate as a child and is now taking it out on the nation.

Nailed it.

Whatever you think of Charlie Kirk and his views, he was always willing to have a conversation. That’s what mattered.