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Right wing cancel culture at it again.

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Batmanisaplaceinturkey · 18/09/2025 04:46

This really is a scary time for free speech.

Another example right wing hypocrisy when it comes to free speech:

Jimmy Kimmel Live! suspended indefinitely after host’s Charlie Kirk comments https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2025/sep/18/jimmy-kimmel-live-suspended-indefinitely-after-hosts-charlie-kirk-comments?CMP=share_btn_url

Jimmy Kimmel Live! suspended indefinitely after host’s Charlie Kirk comments

ABC says late-night show will not air for foreseeable future after Kimmel accused Republicans of ‘doing everything they can to score political points’ from Kirk’s killing

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2025/sep/18/jimmy-kimmel-live-suspended-indefinitely-after-hosts-charlie-kirk-comments?CMP=share_btn_url

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BackToLurk · 18/09/2025 11:51

Howseitgoin · 18/09/2025 11:43

Um, its not as if the laws are vague or unknown.

You act as people can't tell the difference between speech that is demonising & dehumanising & not.

Online communications law, which is what many arrests are made under, is extremely vague. Arrested for causing "annoyance, inconvenience, or needless anxiety"

Namitynamename · 18/09/2025 11:52

BackToLurk · 18/09/2025 11:51

Online communications law, which is what many arrests are made under, is extremely vague. Arrested for causing "annoyance, inconvenience, or needless anxiety"

I do agree there is you are talking about the British act.

Namitynamename · 18/09/2025 11:53

Or actually i think in thinking specifically of the malicious communications act. But still...

saraclara · 18/09/2025 11:53

Start at 2:00. Then tell me that what he said about the killer was worthy of him being cancelled. Then continue to watch his clips of Trump reacting to the assassination.
Which do you think led to ABC being instructed to pull the plug? And do you think either was so heinous as to deserve being cancelled?

HangingOver · 18/09/2025 11:59

PornOfCopia · 18/09/2025 07:35

He said “The Maga Gang [is] desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it,” which, (to me) seems to imply that the murderer was a MAGA type. I don't think there is any evidence for this?

I despise Trump, and I am pro free speech, but I do think this was a dodgy thing to say tbh. Surely it's just political point scoring over the death in the opposite way that Trump is doing it?

Not saying he should be "cancelled", but I do think he should retract that particular comment.

(Edited for my terrible spelling)

Edited

But didn't Trump himself immediately blame the radical left on his socials after the shooting with zero evidence? I can't stand Kimmel but what's the difference.

SinnerBoy · 18/09/2025 11:59

ColdSalads · Today 09:21

The talk show host told blatant lies. Does that not count for anything with you?

Is reporting Trump's own words and actions now "blatant lies"?

samarrange · 18/09/2025 12:00

I find it revealing (but not remotely surprising) that many of the people who derided "social-justice warrior cancel culture" 5–10 ten years ago — on the basis of their claimed attachment to the sacred values of freedom of speech — are now, instead of saying "It was bad then and it's bad now", actually going (including in this thread) "Ha ha, how do you like them apples, suck it up libtards".

It's almost as if they never actually cared about genuine freedom of speech, but just enjoy the momentary satisfaction of bullying people online, exactly the same as the more absurd SJW cancellers. Two cheeks of the same arse.

Howseitgoin · 18/09/2025 12:01

BackToLurk · 18/09/2025 11:51

Online communications law, which is what many arrests are made under, is extremely vague. Arrested for causing "annoyance, inconvenience, or needless anxiety"

Could you link it in full?

These seem quite clear to me.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_speech_laws_in_the_United_Kingdom

Hate speech laws in the United Kingdom - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_speech_laws_in_the_United_Kingdom

hamstersarse · 18/09/2025 12:01

HangingOver · 18/09/2025 11:59

But didn't Trump himself immediately blame the radical left on his socials after the shooting with zero evidence? I can't stand Kimmel but what's the difference.

There was quite a lot of evidence early on that this was a left wing ideologist - the transcripts on the bullets were literally communist mantras, called CK a bigot etc

Anytime you hear the word 'bigot' these days, you know you are dealing with a left wing person captured by radical ideology.

AzurePanda · 18/09/2025 12:02

@saraclara I think it’s awful that at a time like this a comedian who is a TV host would seek to focus on division and do his bit to try and inflame it.

Take a look at Bill Maher as an example of someone on the left who has been completely gracious in the wake of Charlie Kirk’s murder. Ezra Klein of the NYT is another great example and there are plenty more. If I was a TV station boss these are the sort of voices I would want representing me.

hamstersarse · 18/09/2025 12:04

samarrange · 18/09/2025 12:00

I find it revealing (but not remotely surprising) that many of the people who derided "social-justice warrior cancel culture" 5–10 ten years ago — on the basis of their claimed attachment to the sacred values of freedom of speech — are now, instead of saying "It was bad then and it's bad now", actually going (including in this thread) "Ha ha, how do you like them apples, suck it up libtards".

It's almost as if they never actually cared about genuine freedom of speech, but just enjoy the momentary satisfaction of bullying people online, exactly the same as the more absurd SJW cancellers. Two cheeks of the same arse.

I don't want cancel culture for the left - at all.

I think the Kimmel thing was more ABC wanting an excuse to get rid of him as they know they have been waaaaay too left in the past and their numbers are in freefall. As if Trump 'ordered' them to fire him - they are so anti-Trump that it is impossible they would take notice. What they do take note of is the viewing figures and the general mood - and people are sick to the back teeth of the constant leftie bullshit.

And also.... it isn't really the 'right' cancelling him, ABD are democratic through and through - they cancelled him. True to form.

Namitynamename · 18/09/2025 12:04

Howseitgoin · 18/09/2025 11:35

Thanks for that. I wasn't aware of the specifics so appreciate knowing how it all came about. Interesting that social media now has that power on steroids.

This is long but, there was also the Cambridge Analytica scandal. Which predates the 2020 presidential election by 4 years. In that case it was Brexit and the possible of manipulation voters by taking highly sensitive information on people's lives (freely given by Facebook) and using that to provide incredibly personalised adverts in favour of Brexit specifically. It was a whole big thing but Zuckerberg came out of it basically fine. I don't think you can claim it was responsible for skewing the Brexit vote. In the same way people can't say biased social media invalidates the 2020 vote. It wasn't like tampering voting machines. It's the fact that people can never know the exact influence that is so dangerous because it makes it easy to blame any results you don't like on "digital manipulation" or Russian interference. Its enough to throw doubt (see people on here justifying Jan 6 because of the twitter files).

So, yeah. i think "content moderation" versus "free speech" is actually a really useful curtain for the tech guys to hide behind. Theres a much bigger problem with how personal data and algorithms are used to manipulate people (on potentially both sides). And that's completely in the control of billionaires.

Howseitgoin · 18/09/2025 12:06

hamstersarse · 18/09/2025 12:01

There was quite a lot of evidence early on that this was a left wing ideologist - the transcripts on the bullets were literally communist mantras, called CK a bigot etc

Anytime you hear the word 'bigot' these days, you know you are dealing with a left wing person captured by radical ideology.

So far reported from the killer's conversations with his father & his stated motive to alleged lover have been calling CK 'hateful'. Since when is identifying someone who is objectively hateful 'left wing ideology'?

hamstersarse · 18/09/2025 12:07

Howseitgoin · 18/09/2025 12:06

So far reported from the killer's conversations with his father & his stated motive to alleged lover have been calling CK 'hateful'. Since when is identifying someone who is objectively hateful 'left wing ideology'?

Ahhh we are still on the 'objectively hateful' mantra.

I don't think you understand how to be objective for even one second

Ilfurfante · 18/09/2025 12:10

AzurePanda · 18/09/2025 12:02

@saraclara I think it’s awful that at a time like this a comedian who is a TV host would seek to focus on division and do his bit to try and inflame it.

Take a look at Bill Maher as an example of someone on the left who has been completely gracious in the wake of Charlie Kirk’s murder. Ezra Klein of the NYT is another great example and there are plenty more. If I was a TV station boss these are the sort of voices I would want representing me.

"The Maga Gang [is] desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it"

This is the direct quote. Exactly, what is incorrect about this statement when taking into consideration that prominent MAGA (Nancy Mace) literally blamed democrats for his shooting: "democrats owned what happended today"?

I fail to see that he said anything wrong.

Howseitgoin · 18/09/2025 12:11

Namitynamename · 18/09/2025 12:04

This is long but, there was also the Cambridge Analytica scandal. Which predates the 2020 presidential election by 4 years. In that case it was Brexit and the possible of manipulation voters by taking highly sensitive information on people's lives (freely given by Facebook) and using that to provide incredibly personalised adverts in favour of Brexit specifically. It was a whole big thing but Zuckerberg came out of it basically fine. I don't think you can claim it was responsible for skewing the Brexit vote. In the same way people can't say biased social media invalidates the 2020 vote. It wasn't like tampering voting machines. It's the fact that people can never know the exact influence that is so dangerous because it makes it easy to blame any results you don't like on "digital manipulation" or Russian interference. Its enough to throw doubt (see people on here justifying Jan 6 because of the twitter files).

So, yeah. i think "content moderation" versus "free speech" is actually a really useful curtain for the tech guys to hide behind. Theres a much bigger problem with how personal data and algorithms are used to manipulate people (on potentially both sides). And that's completely in the control of billionaires.

Imagine the only bulwark from election media disinformation is 'inflation'? 😂

Howseitgoin · 18/09/2025 12:12

hamstersarse · 18/09/2025 12:07

Ahhh we are still on the 'objectively hateful' mantra.

I don't think you understand how to be objective for even one second

Irony A+….

hamstersarse · 18/09/2025 12:13

Ilfurfante · 18/09/2025 12:10

"The Maga Gang [is] desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it"

This is the direct quote. Exactly, what is incorrect about this statement when taking into consideration that prominent MAGA (Nancy Mace) literally blamed democrats for his shooting: "democrats owned what happended today"?

I fail to see that he said anything wrong.

Are you saying that Tyler Robinson was a Trump supporter?

That is definitely not the case if so. Incorrect.

HerewardtheSleepy · 18/09/2025 12:13

OnlyMabelInTheBuilding · 18/09/2025 05:57

Yeah, that’s karma sorry. The left have been cancelling people for years. And where is was for stating biological fact, it’s unforgivable.

My thoughts exactly. The so-called "progressive left" have opened something they are now unable to control.

Howseitgoin · 18/09/2025 12:15

BackToLurk · 18/09/2025 12:09

Arrests are being made under section 127(2)

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2003/21/section/127

That's more law about causing 'offence' than hate speech.

ColdSalads · 18/09/2025 12:15

HerewardtheSleepy · 18/09/2025 12:13

My thoughts exactly. The so-called "progressive left" have opened something they are now unable to control.

...and it's glorious.

hamstersarse · 18/09/2025 12:15

Howseitgoin · 18/09/2025 12:12

Irony A+….

Did you think of that reply all on your own - or did you have to check in to see if that was an acceptable response?

I know you have never watched Charlie Kirk more than a few snippets on social media with a dumb strapline to tell you what to think before you have even watched it. How would you cope without someone telling you what to think about Charlie Kirk eh?

AzurePanda · 18/09/2025 12:17

@Ilfurfante well for starters it appears that the killer has a transgender boyfriend and according to his own mother had in recent times adopted increasingly left wing views.

So while the left were falling over themselves to depict the killer as a white Christian republican it doesn’t seem unreasonable that the right would point these factors out in response. But I actually don’t enjoy writing any of this, I find the whole politicised response to the murder of a man for expressive his views wholly distasteful. On both sides.

Underthinker · 18/09/2025 12:17

Ilfurfante · 18/09/2025 12:10

"The Maga Gang [is] desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it"

This is the direct quote. Exactly, what is incorrect about this statement when taking into consideration that prominent MAGA (Nancy Mace) literally blamed democrats for his shooting: "democrats owned what happended today"?

I fail to see that he said anything wrong.

Its misleading, because it implies that the "kid" was on the maga right and they were trying to dishonestly distance themselves from him.

And following that it is hypocritical, because he is doing the exact same thing - attempting to distance the left from the murderer.

Not worth firing over though.

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