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Right wing cancel culture at it again.

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Batmanisaplaceinturkey · 18/09/2025 04:46

This really is a scary time for free speech.

Another example right wing hypocrisy when it comes to free speech:

Jimmy Kimmel Live! suspended indefinitely after host’s Charlie Kirk comments https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2025/sep/18/jimmy-kimmel-live-suspended-indefinitely-after-hosts-charlie-kirk-comments?CMP=share_btn_url

Jimmy Kimmel Live! suspended indefinitely after host’s Charlie Kirk comments

ABC says late-night show will not air for foreseeable future after Kimmel accused Republicans of ‘doing everything they can to score political points’ from Kirk’s killing

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2025/sep/18/jimmy-kimmel-live-suspended-indefinitely-after-hosts-charlie-kirk-comments?CMP=share_btn_url

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ThatDreamyLemonBiscuit · 21/09/2025 01:51

Underthinker · 20/09/2025 22:17

FoS is a concept that can be understood outside of any legal framework.

The existence of some hypocritical people in US politics doesn't disprove the ideal of freedom of speech that millions of people understand, believe in and attempt to live up to. I find it frustrating when people make the assertion that "no one really believes in FoS for people they disagree with". I think its usually just a confession.

And I think you meant John Stuart Mill, not Locke.

I did mean Mill, thanks - been a while since I read either and I always muddled my Johns.

But I still disagree that FoS really means much of anything, outside of legal frameworks (the 1st Amendendment in the UK, or the ECHR/HRA in the UK).

The existence of "some" (many) hypocritical people, including the current administration and its supporters, is very relevant to the topic of this thread (an actual attack on FoS in the legal sense, by those who have purported to be FS champions).

Underthinker · 21/09/2025 08:07

ThatDreamyLemonBiscuit · 21/09/2025 01:51

I did mean Mill, thanks - been a while since I read either and I always muddled my Johns.

But I still disagree that FoS really means much of anything, outside of legal frameworks (the 1st Amendendment in the UK, or the ECHR/HRA in the UK).

The existence of "some" (many) hypocritical people, including the current administration and its supporters, is very relevant to the topic of this thread (an actual attack on FoS in the legal sense, by those who have purported to be FS champions).

The existence of "some" (many) hypocritical people, including the current administration and its supporters, is very relevant to the topic of this thread
Relevant to the thread yes, but doesnt support the idea that no one really believes in freedom of speech. That one of the most famously unprincipled men in the world lacks a principle, doesn't say much about who else might or might not have it.

Underthinker · 21/09/2025 08:18

@ThatDreamyLemonBiscuit
Also FWIW I have done exactly the same thing with Locke and Mill before.

ThatDreamyLemonBiscuit · 21/09/2025 17:29

Underthinker · 21/09/2025 08:07

The existence of "some" (many) hypocritical people, including the current administration and its supporters, is very relevant to the topic of this thread
Relevant to the thread yes, but doesnt support the idea that no one really believes in freedom of speech. That one of the most famously unprincipled men in the world lacks a principle, doesn't say much about who else might or might not have it.

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I didn't make that assertion, though.

TooTooMuchEverything · 22/09/2025 03:34

Underthinker · 21/09/2025 08:07

The existence of "some" (many) hypocritical people, including the current administration and its supporters, is very relevant to the topic of this thread
Relevant to the thread yes, but doesnt support the idea that no one really believes in freedom of speech. That one of the most famously unprincipled men in the world lacks a principle, doesn't say much about who else might or might not have it.

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Trump is backed by Project 25 And the Heritage society. State controlled media is one of their goals, and they are well on their way to achieving it. (Government Interference in free speech is not constitutional).

Sachertorten · 22/09/2025 21:56

Batmanisaplaceinturkey · 18/09/2025 04:46

This really is a scary time for free speech.

Another example right wing hypocrisy when it comes to free speech:

Jimmy Kimmel Live! suspended indefinitely after host’s Charlie Kirk comments https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2025/sep/18/jimmy-kimmel-live-suspended-indefinitely-after-hosts-charlie-kirk-comments?CMP=share_btn_url

I guess money talks because Disney stocks dropped $5 a share and I hear JK is coming back. Guess some things are worth rebelling against the administration for. 🤷‍♀️

AzurePanda · 23/09/2025 09:09

Doesn’t seem to be much of an authoritarian fascist regime when a private company can simply overrule it.

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