Right wing cancel culture at it again.

[Batmanisaplaceinturkey]

This really is a scary time for free speech.

Another example right wing hypocrisy when it comes to free speech:

Jimmy Kimmel Live! suspended indefinitely after host’s Charlie Kirk comments https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2025/sep/18/jimmy-kimmel-live-suspended-indefinitely-after-hosts-charlie-kirk-comments?CMP=share_btn_url

I was referring to a previous poster and other posters on this thread. I’m actually not bothered about Kimmel and don’t think he should be cancelled. I doubt he’s been cancelled actually. This is a temporary rap on the knuckles.
However, if this was the other way round, you can guarantee the far left would be trying to cancel the fuck out of whoever they fancy ending the career of.

Irrelevant. Kimmel is American & the first Amendment protects his right to free speech from GOVERNMENT INTERFERENCE which Drumph & his thought police goons just shat over….

‘Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences’

’No, not like that! I meant for people I don’t agree with’.

Not when his lies have the potential to cause violence.

This is akin to Kimmel going on TV and saying "George Floyd was a drug addicted misogynist career criminal who didn't deserve your sympathy"

There would have been riots. Oh wait.

Such a predictable cry bully response. The world is not your personal safe space, sometimes people will say things you don't like, you have to suck it up if you want to be able to say things other people don't like. It's really not complicated unless you think you should be the arbiter of free speech.

I'm in the UK too. I'm very familiar with the authoritarian hate speech laws here, things like non crime hate incidents are ridiculous.

Uh huh, just like:

'they’re eating the cats'
'Mexicans are rapists'
'arabs are terrorists'
'gay people are pedos'

This…

Yup, hate speech laws are just sooooo unnecessary….

https://www.un.org/en/hate-speech/understanding-hate-speech/hate-speech-and-real-harm

"Hate speech and real harm
There are historical precedents showing that hate speech can be a precursor to atrocity crimes.
In recent years, the world has witnessed several mass atrocities. In many of these cases, hate speech was identified as a “precursor to atrocity crimes, including genocide”. While the use of social media and digital platforms to spread hatred is relatively recent, the weaponization of public discourse for political gain is unfortunately not new. As history continues to show, hate speech coupled with disinformation can lead to stigmatization, discrimination and large-scale violence.

The Holocaust
The Holocaust did not start with the gas chambers, but with hate speech against a minority.

The Cambodian genocide
Hateful discourse systematically dubbed intellectuals, opponents and city dwellers, as well as ethnic and religious minorities as the “enemies” of the people.

The 1994 genocide against the Tutsi in Rwanda
Decades of hate speech exacerbated ethnic tensions by spreading unfounded rumours and dehumanizing the Tutsi.

The Srebrenica genocide in Bosnia and Herzegovina
Constant nationalist propaganda throughout party-controlled media channels demonized the Bosnian Muslim population.

The Rohingya refugee crisis in Myanmar
A campaign of hate and misinformation was conducted, loaded with derogatory and dehumanizing language against the Rohingya Muslim minority."

yes and I’ve already said, I don’t believe he should be cancelled. Or taken off air either.
I just know the hypocritical left (who used to own Twitter and cancel people all day long for any right of centre opinion) would be laughing if a right wing celebrity had been taken off air.
Bir then, right wing celebs tend to be quiet on account of the way they’re treated by the oily sycophantic hollywood machine.

Dear Far left

When you where where mocking people for free speech under the guise of performative outrage, some 'non far right' where rightly suggesting that it could eventually be used against you.

This was largely dismissed, I think there is a relevant xkcd that was regularly posted here which some seem to forget.

https://xkcd.com/1357/

There is no point complaining now and pretending it is 'the far right' 🙄who has suddenly flipped positions around the free speech issue

Uh hug, just like

I won't pardon my son
Inflation was 9% when I came to office
Ground Zero in New York - I remember standing there the next day
More cops are killed responding to domestic violence calls than anything else

Fully agree. Some of the comments regarding Charlie Kirk have been a bit batshit (to say the least).
Yes, I do have sympathy with him and his family, even though I didn’t agree with every single thing he said.
I don’t think anyone should be murdered for voicing their views.
Had it happened to someone on the far left I wouldn’t be celebrating it either, and I also wouldn’t be saying “yes, but he/she said x/y/z in the past”.
If having sympathy for someone who’s been murdered “shows posters up for what they are”, then so be it 🙄

False equivalence. Being called out for dehumanising demonising language isn't the same as a mild joke.

Lol, how are Biden's policies relevant to hate speech? 🤪

If these are all men who say any man who utters the words 'I'm a woman' is literally a woman and cheer on rapists in women's prisons and adult men in girls changing rooms and sports then I think I can live with it.

Hopefully there will be some proper journalists and journalists/comedians who who step up.

Maybe Graham Linehan could have a late night show? He's a decent bloke, and funny. (and speaks the truth even when it's difficult to do so)

How long have we had NCHI in place and how many of those links apply to here?

How did we avoid it without NCHI

This isn’t about cancel culture or consequence culture or even schauenfreude. This is about the silencing - the censorship if you will - of the media if they don’t support the current administration. This is about ensuring the public don’t get to hear different perspectives about the narrative being presented by the government and people don’t get the space to make their own decisions and form their own opinions.
This is dangerous stuff. When freedom of the press is removed, propaganda begins. Keep the people in the dark and feed them crap. What comes next?
This is well and truly part of slippery slope to fascism and if you don’t realize this, you need to read up on your history.

It terrifies me that so many people on this thread can't see this @MsTanyaMcQuoid .

I have friends in the US who are in absolute despair right now.

False equivalence.
Isolated instances of hateful conduct aren't the same as widespread hate campaigns.

Can someone explain to me why anyone believing twaw are automatically “left” politically?

and why is CC a “left” thing?

cc as far as I saw was a particular type of trans woman who thought words were literal violence and went after anyone who dared disagree.

to me that’s absolutely not a “left” ideaology, it’s a male violence/privilege one which again in my mind is right wing.

i would say I’m politically left. However I don’t believe people can change sex. I also believe people should be able to say whatever the fuck they want as long as it’s not criminal- and that’s for the police and court to decide, not posters on social media.

why does being gender critical automatically place you on the right wing?

if a man wants to say they’re a woman I will defend their right to say it? Even if I think they are absolutely wrong.

i do not like this new ideology where if you hold a particular belief it automatically makes you left or right wing.

i am sickened at this chasing down of people and getting them sacked, or investigated for their opinions. It’s bullying, it’s silencing, it is not free speech.

It was a question, @FOJNsaid she didn’t agree with NCHI and you linked outcomes in other countries

We have lasted a fair while without needing NCHI

I think the Rohyingya attacks weren't just "hate speech". It was also that the false information/hate speech were spread disproportionately by Facebook's algorithms. To the extent that the "stickers" Facebook had offered to deal with the problem of hatespeech (basically text to overlay hateful images with words like peace love etc) were only further fueling the algorithm.. So people sharing the messages/ reacting with angry emojis spread the misinformation. But people trying to flag the misinformation as misinformation/argue against it were also further spreading the misinformation and hate.
Plus the government at that time didn't have much interest themselves in protecting the Rohingya. So i dont think hate speech laws would have protected them necessarily. What would have helped is Facebook not knowingly using a predatory algorithm that was created to generate engagement with no care for the costs. I believe in free speech (within quite wide bounds) but I don't think algorithms are speech and I think Zuckerberg and friend's
s ability to dodge the really hard questions about their algorithms by making it all about whether to "curate content" or not has been really misleading. In a sense "cancel culture" emerged from a flawed attempt to deal with this. But hey, he got to be a billionaire so I guess it's worth it.

Self-determination is the right of a people to freely determine their political status and pursue their economic, social, and cultural development, whereas conservatism emphasizes stability, tradition, and control. The core conflict arises because the pursuit of self-determination, especially through secession or radical change, can challenge established order, hierarchy, and institutions that conservatives value and seek to maintain.

NCHI would have been used against the Jews in Nazi Germany. The same thing is happening now on quite a few issues.

Women who recognize biological reality and say something like 'I don't believe men can become women' are having NCHIs recorded against them. 'hate speech' laws are very easily twisted by those in power.

@Howseitgoin just to be clear I wasn't so much disagreeing with your point as adding to it!

Resorted to name calling now.
What a cliché you are.