Fuck OFF Elon Musk

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Elon Musk appeared via video link today at Tommy Robinson's Racist March wittering on about woke mind viruses and calling for the dissolution of parliament.

All I really want to say is FUCK OFF ELON MUSK.

If Elon Musk had decided to be a left wing crusader and had stood up on a big podium warning English people "violence is coming (from those on the right) you either fight back or you die" I would consider it equally irresponsible/reprehensible. Likewise if Imam Musk was stood on a podium telling a group of like-minded Muslims "violence is coming (from non Muslims) you either fight back or you die".

It's all about his own ego and a fantasy of violence, justified by it being self defence. Much as I disagree with most of the people on the march I actually don't think many of them** intend violence against me just because I have different political beliefs to them. That's a whole extra level of paranoia/self grandiosity. Elon Musk does appear to be encouraging violence and preparing for violence (against only Muslims or the "woke left" in general?). So that puts him well on the extreme end of the march. He isn't just someone who cares about Englishness, community, free speech or housing etc. And desperately pretending otherwise is odd.

**The violent ones who were trying to get to the counter protesters not withstanding

Ok, well on a brighter note - we are agreed on something.

Oh dear, I guess you look to the BBC for news still....

This chimes with what I’ve read about the terrible policing and planning.

People on the main march described being kettled and blocked in as well.

There was a video I saw where the police were blocking a route, which was apparently the agreed route?, and there was a massive pile up forming behind.

People started pushing past, and then people falling, being pushed over and people walking / being pushed over them etc. You could see others grabbing their hands and dragging them up.

Fucking stupid and dangerous, and the police are lucky it didn’t end badly.

That’s not what I’m hearing at all. Can you not read? I think there’s a very dangerous far-right uprising and I’m literally appalled by your comments. London is an epicentre of multiculturalism, that’s its absolute beauty and strength. What you are talking about is hatred and bitterness, I suspect you probably have a tough life, because I can’t see where such bigoted views come from - other than innate sadness and hardship. You aren’t welcome in London.

The thing is, this just makes the government look bad.

They should be doing this anyway, whether people think he’s right or wrong to do so, he shouldn’t have even felt the need to.

Instead we just get bullshit ‘lesson learned’ speeches, and lessons inevitably never are learned.

What was vile was people potentially putting their children in danger and allowing them to listen to nasty, vicious diatribes from the likes of Musk.

The anti-Brexit protests were far larger.

and that achieved nothing

Unfortunately I believe that this situation/uprising is happening all over the "West" and all over Europe...... Sweden, France, Germany, Holland, Romania. Did you not hear the speakers/ MPS representing these countries saying the same thing as Elon on the stage at the Unite the Kingdom on Saturday?? Go and watch their speeches on YouTube.

As last weekend’s disgusting display will. Other than make millions angry at Musk’s astonishing intervention.

Thankfully, many who voted for Brexit have realised that they were woefully misled. When there is another referendum, as there will be as the world becomes an increasingly dangerous place, the result will be very different.

It’s a shame that UK had to suffer so badly for people to realise the terrible mistake, but at least it has.

You were there to measure how many of this absolutely enormous march were skinheads?
Amazing achievement.

So who were the other 10% according to you?

Did you not hear the speakers/ MPS representing these far right of those countries saying the same thing as Elon on the stage at the Unite the Kingdom on Saturday??

Fixed that for you.

Whilst not experienced in marching, to my mind there weren’t enough police and/or in wrong area at times - to be fair they managed to secure the counter protestors’ safety when they were stuck in Whitehall but it took hours to be able to get them out.
I saw a lone copper running up and down from one SYL supporter to the other to try keep them away from our counter protestors - he looked scared and it’s police 101 not to be solo so not sure how that happened.
Some SYL marchers left their March and went to the pub instead and from there were lining the streets of the counter protest route.
There was just one place where the routes came close (not ideal in the first place) but supposedly a ‘sterile area’ between but They managed to break through and surround us and also run through our March, try and board our coaches.
I mean I’m glad to now hear they’re nice concerned citizens but at the time I definitely felt they didn’t care for my free speech rights and were quite aggressively trying to stop it.

Completely agree.
I'm getting on now in age and I've never seen so many.
I felt so proud....

And also thankful that an "outsider" Elon Musk took the time to give his view on what this country has become.
My elderly parents live in Spain and it's the same viewpoint over there.

That’s terrible, should never have been allowed to break through. Sounds like they needed definitely needed more boots on the ground.
Was it the met police?

Only asking as from what I read, the city of London police were really good, and the met were, well, not so good.

So your parents are immigrants? How does that sit with you?

I’m getting on now. Disgusted me.

So you're OK with Musk inciting violence and insurrection. Good grief. Surely whatever your thoughts, no-one would actually agree with incitement to violence?

ETA how would you feel if your elderly parents living in Spain were subject to abuse and hatred by locals, marching against foreigners taking Spanish homes.

I thought people with your views were all about sovereignty, @Petitchat . Since when did that include foreigners calling for revolution?

Just wanted to correct some of the information on asylum seekers here;
a/ if they are in a hotel and fed they get around £9 per week, if not fed then around £40.
b/ they do not get phones from the government at all - but you may think this as it happened in rare, limited and specific circumstances in the worst of covid for some asylum seekers eg/ sick ones who may have been separated from family. If they get phones now they are from charities.
c/ healthcare is ltd to angel care not long lists of appointments across the NHS,
d/ the hotels may cost pounds but that mainly goes to the rich owners who couldn’t and don’t want to run them as functioning hotels. When the Tories allowed the backlog to build up and the hotels to fill then some of their mates kindly helped out getting hotels and gov’t contracts. We should cherchez the cash not the asylum seekers.
I’ve not heard of English Heritage, I think it’s either invented or the English Heritage themselves being charitable - the asylum seekers have little to do except hide from protestors, are crammed into small rooms in dire places and most came from terrible situations so I applaud charities helping out.

What? That they need to leave Spain because they're not welcome there?

And someone else claimed 90% were skinheads 🤣

Please could you answer my question. How does it sit with you, your parents being immigrants to Spain?

And why would anyone not want free speech?
The mind boggles...

It got a bit hairy but where I was stopped short of launching themselves physically though a glass bottle just missed my head and ‘water’ (hopefully!) was aplenty.
I can’t tell which police were there as just grouped them altogether as in uniform 🙈 - I’d say some weren’t as experienced as others perhaps. I could see a certain amount of police organisation but it just didn’t cover all areas in my opinion that day.
I was told that SYL type protestors, or some at least, often get bored of the main event and go to the pubs - this I think should be accounted for if a regular thing and I didn’t see that it was - no police around the route where pubs and SYL supporters were, till they had to rush over a bit late.
I saw a lot of drinking going on, pubs and cans, probably doesn’t help quieten people down.