Do you believe in manifestation?

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So I actually began to study the science behind it rather than “I’m going to magically wish to be a millionaire by the time I wake up tomorrow)

And honestly small things have happened that I can’t say is just a coincidence.

I hadn’t spoke to a friend in maybe 3 months, in fact she was more of an acquaintance and I had a thought about her and that I probably would hear from her again but it would nice if I did. Just hours later she messaged me.

The other day I was stressed over a jacket I wanted to sell that had been on my Vinted for ages (removed, uploaded 4 times). It’s been up this time for weeks with only a couple of likes, I thought I’m going to sell this. The next day it’s sold.

I had a clear image in my head of someone knocking on my door and giving me a package despite me not having ordered anything, A week later I heard knocking (assumed it was my neighbours door, it was early and I was in bed still). Walked out hours later to a huge box left on my doorstep. My mum had used my Amazon Prime and forgot to charge the address)

So yes I am starting to believe after much in-depth research and listening to lectures, that there is science to your subconscious creating the reality that you see.

I think it can give you a positive attitude and more belief which leads to better outcomes sometimes. Sort of like in Harry Potter when Ron thinks Harry has slipped luck potion into his drink and he wins the quidditch match because he’s just in a really good mood and convinced everything’s going to work out so it does.

@Bumblebee72

Pretty sure I'm already manfesting your response that the pigeon did not appear because I did try hard enough "like not with all my heart". My manfesting of going to sleep seems to be working through so I'll pop back tomorrow to see if there are any pigeon results.

It’s not about “trying with all your heart” as I’ve already clearly said.

No that’s the Ron thing was just a placebo effect.

Thank you. It’s not about the universe giving me anything though.

"You literally had a subconscious thought and envisioned it and then it happened. Thats manifestation. We do it all day long."

No, it's not. Yes, we daydream (subconsciously think about things) all day long. That isn't manifesting. It's daydreaming. If the thing you're daydreaming about happens then it's coincidence. To manifest something you have to DO something to make it happen.

Please re-visit your definition of "manifesting". I honestly think you're using the wrong word for what you're describing.

Come a little closer and tell me earnestly that I manifested the deaths of my DM, DP, DF, MIL, an Uncle and three friends, the last 6 since April, and see how far your misunderstanding of manifestation gets you.....

And I say this as someone who uses tarot as a psychological tool and understands a bit about the subconscious. Are you familiar with the archetypal trickster that underpins the Magician? And how hubris is the downfall of magickal thinking?

As someone mentioned above, messing with the psyche has dangerous consequences. Seeking order from chaos is one thing, pretending you have control over chaos is the road to madness.

(Sweeps out of thread swishing velvet cloak, catches it on door handle, bungles exit, but styles it out ..... )

But I’ve never said it’s about trying. It really has nothing to do with a physical act. Like weight loss, you can try as hard as you want but if subconsciously you don’t think you’ll ever be at or remain your goal weight then no willpower or the voice inside your head will change that.

And you haven’t won the lottery because thinking of how you’re going to spend the money just reinforces to your subconscious you don’t have it. And this your reality shows you this.

I mean I can already tell we wouldn’t get on as your last sentence made me cringe.

Death is inevitable. Grief is horrendous and we all experience it. Never once have I said on this thread people manifest death. You’ve created your own narrative there.

It’s all inner work. It’s not a physical doing.

I do, but then I believe there's a lot more to it than manifestation, the ability to manifest is just a side effect and something that happens naturally according to your state of being.

I also believe that my soul chose my main experiences before I came here. And yes I've been through my fair share, rape, illness, abuse etc.

So I don't think I 'manifested' those in this life, but that those things had to happen to set me on my spiritual journey in this lifetime.

I also don't believe that everyone is 'always manifesting', I think some people are just going along with the experience of being human and nothing was pre-determined before they got here..because we're all on different journeys at different stages.

I don’t believe at all in anyone’s life being predetermined.

If you hadn’t heard from the friend in 30 years there might be something in it, but not hearing from someone since May/June and then them getting in touch is nothing remotely out of the ordinary.

You have explicitly stated we manifest our own reality. My reality is a long series of deaths and the material loss of many things. Are you really going to dare to tell me I manifested that?

And I don't give a shiny tuppence whether or not "we'd get on", or how "cringe" I am (because frankly we're level pegging there.)

Because what you are peddling is dangerous and psychologically damaging to the vulnerable. It's cult like thinking, and much beloved of MLMs and various other purveyors of snake oil.

Well OP, I don't think you know what the term "manifestation" means, nor what sub conscious means.

Fwiw, I don't believe in manifestation. But I do believe in positive self talk and (the opposite) limiting beliefs, which sounds like what you're talking about.

If I go to bed thinking "oh god, I just know I'm not going to sleep tonight" it's likely that I won't, because I've told myself that and auto suggested it. If I tell myself "I'm going to sleep well and wake up easily at the time I need to" then my positive self talk is possibly going to help me sleep better.

But that's not manifestation.

I can't manifest something. That's not possible.

With your parcel example it wasn't even right - you predicted (not manifested) a parcel coming for you. But a parcel didn't come for you it came for your mum.

You are also possibly retro fitting things. It's highly likely you didn't think about your old acquaintance that day, just that when they messaged you then you thought you had done. The mind is a powerful thing - especially if you're telling it nonsense like "I can manifest stuff".

My mum bought me The Secret back in the early 000s. I scoffed but did it anyway. I still don’t believe in it even though all the things I visualised at that time really did come into my life quite rapidly. I dunno though, life is a bit shit right now, maybe I should revisit 🤷‍♀️

That's all a bit convenient, isn't it! 😂

For me I don't believe that it's all predetermined, only some.
And as I said for some I don't believe it's predetermined at all, but also in this lifetime they won't ever even begin to touch on any kind of spiritual journey.

In a sense it works if you break it down to things like having a clear vision of what you want, feeling authentically deserving of it i.e. doing the work both inner and outer to obtain it. Working to resolve your own personal blocks and issues, resolving past trauma so that you are less likely to self sabotage. Using your vision of what you want to enable to you tap into synchronicity and to be ready for opportunity as it occurs.

I'm not convinced it's magic but I think the "magical" vibe of it helps motivate some people so why not!

I quite like watching Bob Proctor videos, but a lot of his stuff is more about getting your mindset right and getting on with doing stuff, which to be fair does make sense and is a bit more than manifestation!
I had a really great shift in my thinking when I listed things that I was grateful for daily, last year. Sadly I got lazy and stopped - need to start again!

Yes I think there is something in being positive and positive thinking .I meditated and focused on passing my driving test and I did it .

It's pseudoscience. Sorry, OP. It would be fun if it were real science.

As I said she’s more of an acquaintance and we had no reason to stay in touch,

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