Do you believe in manifestation?

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So I actually began to study the science behind it rather than “I’m going to magically wish to be a millionaire by the time I wake up tomorrow)

And honestly small things have happened that I can’t say is just a coincidence.

I hadn’t spoke to a friend in maybe 3 months, in fact she was more of an acquaintance and I had a thought about her and that I probably would hear from her again but it would nice if I did. Just hours later she messaged me.

The other day I was stressed over a jacket I wanted to sell that had been on my Vinted for ages (removed, uploaded 4 times). It’s been up this time for weeks with only a couple of likes, I thought I’m going to sell this. The next day it’s sold.

I had a clear image in my head of someone knocking on my door and giving me a package despite me not having ordered anything, A week later I heard knocking (assumed it was my neighbours door, it was early and I was in bed still). Walked out hours later to a huge box left on my doorstep. My mum had used my Amazon Prime and forgot to charge the address)

So yes I am starting to believe after much in-depth research and listening to lectures, that there is science to your subconscious creating the reality that you see.

I said

"So they'll need to subconsciously think 'I do have money' even when they don't have a pot to piss in, then they'll suddenly have some and be able to feed their kids?"

And you answer was

"Yes to put it simply"

Not only vile but ridiculous.

Still, you'll be able to use your super power to cure world hunger, won't you?

That's something I suppose.

It's vile because it says people who are poor or sick have just not tried enough to be rich or not sick, "like not tried with all their heart."

You cannot manifest your way out of situations. It is bullshit.

No you deciding to be offended by giving your own meaning to what I’m saying.

It’s your subconscious which is shaped by your experiences and beliefs in life. It’s not your mind. I’m not saying think happy thoughts that you have money and if you don’t it’s your fault.

To reset a deep ingrained subconscious thought is incredibly difficult. Someone who has grown up in poverty and it’s all they’ve known will subconsciously believe that this is what life is for them.

Again it’s not me saying to them stop being poor and think you’re now rich and woohoo problem solved.

I never said anything about natural disasters or disease. You’ve just added those in.

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No it’s not that at all. That’s the narrative you’ve decided to run with.

It’s never about someone not trying with all their heart or being someone’s fault. You’re thinking of the conscious mind, that voice inside your head. The subconscious mind is vastly different.

No I'm thinking about science. Manifesting the universe is no more real that talking to spirits, those who promote it are charlatans and frauds.

Bollocks.

Did you want to shove in some magical thinking causing terminally ill children whilst you're at it?

Why don't you manifest that tomorrow there will be a pigeon in my living room. Then I can come back tomorrow and tell if you it worked.

I promise I'll be honest.

I'd like some links to the actual science please

Who said anything about illness? Not me. So maybe if you’re trying to make an educated point you could do it without putting words in my mouth.

I think that sometimes, you want something and you’re lucky enough to get it. Other times you don’t. That’s basically it. You can’t say that the times it happens you “manifested it” because what about all the other times! It’s nonsense (IMO)

You project your own reality. I can’t make your subconscious project a pigeon.

But manifestation isn’t just “good”. It’s just basically your subconscious beliefs. Which on a basic level are good or bad (as perceived by you).

It’s not your conscious mind saying “I want this”

You lost me. And think you’ve lost yourself too.

Ok - I would equally accept as evidence a photo of a pigeon in your living room if that is closer to your reality. I trust that you wouldn't go outside and encourage the pigeon in to make a point.

This is genuine science, can we create a repeatable experiment that proves the proposition is correct.

This person is trolling us guys.

It's was hardly going to be real is it? But if I do find a pigeon in my living room tomorrow I'm would be tempted to be more open.

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That's not how I envisage "manifesting". It isn't mumbo jumbo. It's about believing you can do something, change something, achieve something, and you take the necessary positive steps to do those things, rather than expecting it to land on your plate. Putting yourself out there into the right place to get the right time so as to speak.
I don't believe in luck either, you make your own luck with the actions you take in life.
I had a friend drop into to see me at work yesterday. I've not seen or spoken to her in two months. On Monday I was thinking about her and how we hadn't spoken for quite a while. Her coming to see me at work wasn't me ordering her subconsciously. It was utter coincidence that we have a good friendship and we'd both been thinking "it's been a while", she just happened to instigate first.

Mumbo jumbo is how you described manifesting.

You literally had a subconscious thought and envisioned it and then it happened. Thats manifestation. We do it all day long.

But that's just thinking about doing something and then doing it. We all do that multiple times a day. In that case I'm amazing at manifesting, I just 2 minutes ago manifested myself a glass of water and I'm about to manifest cleaning my teeth and going to bed. Tomorrow I will manfest loads of stuff.

"To reset a deep ingrained subconscious thought is incredibly difficult."

True. It usually takes some sort of therapy or counselling to unravel that.

"Someone who has grown up in poverty and it’s all they’ve known will subconsciously believe that this is what life is for them."

Only if they've been brought up to believe they can't achieve more or change their lives. Its a psychology thing, not a manifesting thing.

You can't manifest/daydream/think about something and expect it to change or land in your lap; you have to DO something to make a change. Simply thinking about it sub/consciously or not, will not make it happen.

Anything else is just coincidence and luck.

Anyway, I'm manifesting being asleep in my bed before midnight..

Why not humour me and envision a pigeon in your living room and fully believe in that. Then yes that will happen.

Obviously, no.
I hate how it plays into two tropes I despise:
-people who don’t succeed just aren’t trying hard enough to change their fate
-I can get stuff just by thinking of it in my head, without actually working for it.
Both make me feel 🤮

I’ve spent hours envisioning what I’d do with a lottery win or even a smaller raffle win: has it come true? Has it fuck.

Good luck with that manfesting. I hope the universe makes it possible for you.