On and On and On It Goes - Trump thread #148

[Spandauer]

It's been 9 horrible months and I find myself looking back on those "eating the cats and dogs" days with nostalgia.

Previous thread:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5392716-grotesque-greedy-gullible-graceless-gaslighting-gormless-god-forsaken-grifter-trump-thread-147

He made no secret at all of his intentions before he was elected, as far as I could tell (and on the occasions on which he was using the English language in sentences, or even near-sentences) but the things listed as being positive achievements of his simply have not happened, apart from empowering gangs of thugs to seize and imprison random people on the streets, which I understand is viewed as something to do with immigration – but since the people seized include people with valid visas and people who are US citizens, it's not doing all that well really.

Unemployment has risen and prices are going through the roof; I don't recall his promising those things. Oh, and don't be ill. You're not ill, are you, @CalmShaker? Because you definitely won't be able to afford to be, not when your medication is so much more expensive under Trump.

I actually thought it went well, UK - USA relationship strengthened. Major trade and investment announced.

Starmer is a fool if he thinks that Trump's visit strengthened UK-USA relationships and I noted that steel is still subject to a 25% tariff.
We are in a world of "AMERICA FIRST" and he will learn the hard way that the US is not a reliable or trustworthy ally. These much vaunted 'deals' will leave the UK heavily reliant on US AI tech for our defence capabilities ... and we know what happened to Ukraine's US manufactured fighter jets that depended on US tech to fly. <kill switch>

I'm fed up of hearing that the UK had one of the lowest set of tariffs imposed. It's like saying everyone else had two limbs chopped off, but didn't we do well, we only lost one limb!

I want to see the fine print in the trade and investment deals. What's the time scale? Can the US companies back out? Will taxpayer money be used to indemnify any of the deals? How much will the UK be required to contribute? Why are we not working with France on the nuclear deal?

A. Businesses exist to make money and these deals aren't out of altruism.

B. Beware of men bearing gifts.

C. And I'm another in the "If I don't laugh, I'd cry" camp and laughing at Melania's hat worked for me.

As said, I voted on what the man can deliver not the man.

That's some mighty fine moral juggling required to separate the two.
Have you really looked at what Trump has delivered? I have two siblings and a cousin, living legally in the US. One has already applied to move to Europe.

😂

Potential 'Leopards ate my face" alert!

Putting these economic FACTS here in case @CalmShaker returns.

https://www.economist.com/interactive/trump-approval-tracker/economy

I'm a bit sad that Calmshaker isn't taking the opportunity to fight her corner. An annonymous forum is the perfect place to explain what motivates one to support Trump.

And this too.

James O'Brien reacts to the news that Jimmy Kimmel's late-night talk show has been pulled off the air by ABC after the host made comments about the shooting of right-wing influencer Charlie Kirk.

Aye pet 😂

Trump said he didn't know Mandelson. The receipts says he did. Is Trump's memory failing - no laughing matter for a man of his advanced years.

Thank you very much for that, @logicisall .

Very interesting piece by O'Brien, especially including that contrasting clip of what is OK to say on a Fox channel (a commentator suggesting in all seriousness that homeless people should be murdered, and another commentator agreeing).

I hadn't seen the uninterrupted Jimmy Kimmel piece, so that was worth seeing as well. One always wonders if there's some important additional text that's been cut missing, but on this occasion, nope, doesn't seem to be.

And I note the MAGAs trying to whip up rage about Kimmel are misrepresenting what he said – all the while screeching that HE has misrepresented what MAGAs said. Of course they are. DARVO rules.

Oh, it's you!

@Wallaw1 🤣

What has he delivered for US farmers?

Same thing for “I have never met Prince Andrew” “I have not met Jeffrey Epstein”

Just Google Trump and one of those names and it’s there!

Thought for today?
https://www.politico.eu/article/donald-trump-uk-next-british-prime-minister/
Donald Trump, next British Prime Minister?

Difficult to tell the difference between a man who has lied as he breathed all his life and Trump with incipient dementia.

He’s doing what he said he would. Getting rid of non-whites. Making poor people poorer. Ruining healthcare, bringing back childhood diseases. Not allowing education for anyone who’s not a billionaire. Putting women back in their place, chained to the kitchen sink and incel men. Getting rid of the homeless by involuntary lethal injection. Bringing back slavery. Becoming Hitler. Making America Grey Again. (That’s Enough. Ed.)

0% tariffs on soy exports to China. Because 0 sales. That's good, surely?

And all those crops rotting through lack of pickers are natural fertiliser

He's shown the way investors into the country are treated. I'm sure the experience of the South Korean Hyundai workers is truly inspiring.

I was looking at photos of the state dinner again last night. Seeing Trump and Charles bookended by Camila in bright blue and Melania in bright yellow I was reminded of QEII’s blue and yellow hat post Brexit. It was an interesting choice given the sludgy autumn colours Melania’s worn for the rest of the trip. The question is, who are they supporting if it was coded messaging? EU, Ikea, Sweden or Ukraine?

The Onion, true to form.

@boatyardblues Ikea?

Dan Rather keeps going, rather well here, I think.
https://open.substack.com/pub/steady/p/freedom-of-speech-for-sale?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email

Melania definitely looked at her happiest over the last few days when with Catherine and the children - aka away from DJT. I mean her smile looked genuine rather than “model pose”.