Labour isn't working - Thread 8

[TheNuthatch]

A chat thread for those who don't like this Labour government.

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

Previous thread
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/chat/5404009-labour-isnt-working-thread-7?utmcampaign=thread&utmmedium=share

Meanwhile, there’s a frank exchange of views on a couple of other threads…

I don’t like it. Elon Musk is unstable person with a lot of unelected power. I think his interventions could cause chaos and confusion.

Well look where elected power has got us! Would much rather have Elon in charge than this incompetent shower.

For sure he knows where the bodies are buried young Mandy and his Machiavellian ways
I am waiting for my rentals to be reclassified as business rates it’s been a year so far there are 19000 people in the same predicament as me the VOA can’t cope with the volume because this government doubled council tax on empty homes. So I was happy to pay single tax on holiday let but now they will get no revenue from me because it will be business

Agreed, if Musk adds 1% to a successful removal of this wretched government, my enemy’s enemy is my ally.

@upseedaisee there clearly were ordinary people there to hit those numbers, you must be right about that. A new age of desperation.

Blimey, that is a fast drop!

It's actually interesting in a grim way seeing all the harmful side effects that economists warn about actually coming about under Labour. The Left shouted that it was all self-interested excuses - but here comes abundant evidence that you do actually need to be fiscally responsible, think about side effects, and allow business to create the value you want to redistribute.

I don't want to in any way minimise the devastating personal harm caused by Labour's fiscal incompetence - including to some people on this thread - and I wish it had been avoided. But perhaps we can hope for a silver lining that Leftist governments will actually learn from this?

Not since the Poll Tax debacle has there been marches of the size seen yesterday. Keir Starmer and the government ignore it at their peril.

@strawberrybubblegum but they don't seem to learn or listen at all that's the intrinsic issue !

I find people on the left follow ideology like a religion and wrapped up in this moral thing means they are brain washed cultists .

@upseedaisee definatly ignore it and concentrate on the nutters there and codes about Hitler: not the middle of the road people who have normal concerns and worries of which there were plenty.

Maybe it's been reported here before, but this caught my eye.

Manchester United owner Sir Jim Ratcliffe says he will no longer be investing money into Britain through his energy empire because of Labour's tax raid on North Sea oil and gas production.
His company Ineos announced that spending would be pulled from the UK and diverted to the US because of high costs, including the windfall tax and a levy on oil companies making massive profits.

Top UK billionaire pulls investment out of Britain over Labour's energy taxes | LBC

Yet more proof that this government is cutting it's nose off to spite it's face.
Ed Milliband at his finest!

I'm not keen either. I think in our globally connected world, people feel like everywhere is part of 'their society' and so their concern. And I don't think humans handle that well. We're a very, very strongly social species, but we're designed for much smaller social groups where we have genuine personal relationships, and which we can influence.

Elon Musk isn't part of the UK. He should butt out (unless he makes the UK his full, permanent home... and stops being part of the US).

Likewise, UK people - including Mumsnetters - should butt out of US politics. I read a thread on here where people were genuinely calling on US people to rise up against Trump! It doesn't matter what we think of him, the US people elected him.

That's really shit. 66K more young people signing on since Labour came to office.

Ideology wrapped in a cult wrapped in blinkered self -righteousness. Terrifying.

@notimagain Yes that must be what I was thinking of. Thanks for the info. Interesting to learn about their other roles.

I cannot imagine going to KwaZulu-Natal home of the Zulu people and complaining that their dances and rituals didn't feel inclusive to ME??

😂😂 Indeed

Yes. How can Labour say they support ‘working people’ - so far in office they’ve done the exact opposite (unless one is a train driver or a politician).

I doubt they will learn from it, they don't seem particularly bothered by the consequences of their actions so far.
We can hope.

It happens every time there's a Labour government. I well remember leaving school during the Wilson government and god it was tough. I was a lucky one, I'd been a saturday girl at a local hunt stables and they gave another day so I had two days work. Certainly couldn't afford to leave home and a lot of the cohort who left school with me were unemployed. Funnily enough, it was the girls who suffered more, there were still apprenticeship schemes available for the lads to get on. The same occurred with the Blair government.

They don't learn, they don't listen. They never will. It is ideology above everything and everyone.

There are still Labour supporters on MN who are trotting out the "everything is fine" line with their fingers in their ears.
They refuse to acknowledge the state the economy + country is in and feel that the issues with Starmer are "sensationalism"

Exactly. Not to mention the added cost of more people relying on state support due to lack of jobs.
I was listening to a union bod on the radio the other day trying to justify the tube strikes. He was explaining how £72k wasn't a good salary, and that shifts at short notice, working weekends etc were damaging to the drivers health. 🙄

Oh well, that's alright then. Nothing to see here.

I bet

So according to this, Starmer knew the full content of those emails before PMQs, where he repeatedly backed Mandelson.
I wouldn't want to be in Starmer's shoes if Mandy is on the warpath. Its not even a fair fight.