Thread 31 Starmer - September Rain

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Taxes optional but greatly appreciated.

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There's a massive container storage unit facility near me and every time I pass it I wonder what is stored in there? Close to the station as well.

Should the lights be turned out, see IMF thread, I'm positive that all the very lovely middle class people in our area will certainly storm it. Perhaps the opening of a dystopian novel?

Bright green doesn’t really suit me - I look better in sludgier colours generally. In fact, I think I only have one item of clothing (that I currently wear) that’s green. I do have a lovely, very smart green suit - a sort of dark sage/olive colour - but as I’m no longer working, it just languishes in the wardrobe. Plus the fact that I’d have to lose about 54 stones to be able to wear it these days!

Bad news for Angela Rayner - breaking news on Sky:

https://news.sky.com/story/angela-rayner-admits-she-should-have-paid-more-stamp-duty-on-flat-purchase-and-considered-resigning-13424180

Keep it @BIWI

I just saw that flash up on BBC. Presumably, like the rest of us, she was told what to pay by a legal bod though?

How disappointing and such a stupid thing to do.

Seems slightly dim to me. He seems to think that Labour have no experience of resisting the left, when it's been their entire existence since the 70s.

Rayner is being openly honest. I appreciate and applaud her.

It was obviously a complex divorce with a minor child with considerable additional needs.

I am sorry to say this, but she needs to go.

That is what I'd be saying if it was a Tory deputy PM.

The Rayner haters will be cock a hoop.

There is that. But I think resisting the left within is different from the left from outside the party. Honestly, I’m up for even the vainest hope.

I would say since the end of WW2.

It’s not in Starmer’s power. Deputy Leader is an elected position.
Edit: though I suppose deputy leader doesn’t have to mean deputy PM.

The resignation of a deputy leader within the Labour Party triggers a membership based election process.

I dare say they will ask her to publish some of the relevant bits of the legal advice.

As far as I can see she (and ex-husband?) sold their home to a trust for her disabled child.

Following the sale she was advised that the standard rate of SD was payable on her next purchase.

Subsequently advised that this was incorrect.

Without seeing the initial instructions, the original advice and the follow up advice its difficult to comment much more it - not that that will stop anyone.

Do as Jeremy Hunt did - correct matters by paying the additional tax owed.

Yes, I meant as deputy PM.

I'm afraid I now think she has to go too. Someone in her position really needs to get better advice and think through the optics of her decisions.

Enter Andy Burnham?

I feel nothing but sympathy for her, tax in this country is far too complicated and if you relied on expert advice which was incorrect then it was not your fault. Meanwhile we should prepare for visitors here 🙄

Andy isn't a member of Parliament.

Ah, wasnt sure whether Deputy Leader was required to be an MP.

I am a bit gutted, tbh.

Yes, let's just ignore any visitors. They can gloat away on the "we hate Labour" thread.

Yep.

Yes it is. So a Parliamentary selection that then goes to membership.

Whoops, meant Zahawi.