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Why are governments putting women and girls at higher risk of sex crimes?

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Absentmindedsmile · 26/08/2025 12:37

Fact: Hundreds of thousands of men are entering Europe (as in the continent), from countries where women and girls are second class citizens.
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Fact: The sex crime rate statistics associated with different nationalities living in the UK have been published. An example is provided below.
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….the [sex crime] rates, based on convictions per 10,000 of the population put Afghans, with 77 convictions, at the top with a rate of 59 per 10,000 – 22.3 times that of Britons.
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They were followed by Eritreans, who accounted for 59 convictions at a rate of 53.6 per 10,000 of their population.
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Britons accounted for 12,619 sex offence convictions, representing a rate of 2.66 per per 10,000 of their population in England and Wales.
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https://archive.md/6AXAy Archive version
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Fact: This example data blows up any erroneous claims from people suggesting that British men commit more sex crimes when numbers in the population are accounted for / are more likely to commit a sex crime.
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There’s above is factual data. It is not racist to provide it. To claim this, is quite simply, wrong. Perhaps it’s projection, the mind boggles.

To want ‘no debate’ and bleet on with incorrectly placed accusations of racism, is to shut down people’s valid concerns.

Tin hat on for the people who want no debate on this issue, and instead of protecting women and girls, insist on protecting men from countries where women and girls are treated as second class citizens.

More data has been promised.
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TopPocketFind · 28/08/2025 16:58

Brexiteer politicians stamped those visas.

When we were in the EU, people came and went. Now people come from further away and stay.

That's what you voted for with Brexit, to stop freedom of movement going both ways.

bloodymary2025 · 28/08/2025 17:08

qualitative primary source from mirgrant hotelworker
Covers experiences of high level drug use

Attitudes towards female staff, proity access to nhs, choice of new iPhone or Samsung, aggression towards staff due to food choices etc

TopPocketFind · 28/08/2025 17:10

Winter2020 · 28/08/2025 16:54

Great perhaps at some point our young people will be able to afford a home of their own.

Building affordable housing incl council housing would be a good start.

TopPocketFind · 28/08/2025 17:13

https://fullfact.org/live/2024/jun/nigel-farage-asylum-seekers-smartphones/

Asylum seekers do not receive phones as part of their standard support package from the Home Office, though a number of charities do provide donated phones to new arrivals to make it easier for them to contact solicitors and monitor the progress of their claims.

CorneliaCupp · 28/08/2025 17:19

bloodymary2025 · 28/08/2025 17:08

qualitative primary source from mirgrant hotelworker
Covers experiences of high level drug use

Attitudes towards female staff, proity access to nhs, choice of new iPhone or Samsung, aggression towards staff due to food choices etc

Asylum seekers houses in hotels do no getting new mobile phones or priority access to the NHS.
They MAY receive a phone from a charity, and have the same access to the NHS as you and I.

Winter2020 · 28/08/2025 17:25

TopPocketFind · 28/08/2025 17:10

Building affordable housing incl council housing would be a good start.

We'll have to build a lot of housing to keep up with the projected 500k of increasing population in the coming years yes. (For projections see attached images in my previous posts). I predict we won't keep up with the increasing population and the housing situation will sadly get worse with housing more difficult to source and more expensive which is a tragedy for our young people and families.

poetryandwine · 28/08/2025 17:30

TopPocketFind · 28/08/2025 17:13

https://fullfact.org/live/2024/jun/nigel-farage-asylum-seekers-smartphones/

Asylum seekers do not receive phones as part of their standard support package from the Home Office, though a number of charities do provide donated phones to new arrivals to make it easier for them to contact solicitors and monitor the progress of their claims.

Thank you. Farage never did provide a source as requested for the rumour that asylum seekers are provided with smart phones. I wonder why?

My friend who works with an asylum charity categorically denies this. His charity is constantly collecting used phones for donation to asylum seekers.

PandoraSocks · 28/08/2025 18:01

bloodymary2025 · 28/08/2025 16:52

A primary qualitative source - a former mirgrant hotel manager speaks to citizen ytbr covers, attitude and behaviours of hotel guests, knife crime in hotels, rape charges whislt in hotels, money spent by contractor serco, nda's, how the processing works, how its common to pretend to be gay for visa

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DJE media? Aka Curtis Arnold, a man with an "interesting history?

You think he is a good, reliable and impartial source of information?

Dear me.

archive.is/JJLiX

TopPocketFind · 28/08/2025 18:05

PandoraSocks · 28/08/2025 18:01

DJE media? Aka Curtis Arnold, a man with an "interesting history?

You think he is a good, reliable and impartial source of information?

Dear me.

archive.is/JJLiX

Wow, thanks for that info

Absentmindedsmile · 28/08/2025 18:21

Did someone ask for a source ref population increase? Not that this thread is about that figure specifically, although of course it’s all related.

‘More than half (65%) of the increase in the UK population between 2004 and 2023 was due to the direct contribution of net migration.

Since 2020, almost all of the growth in the population has come from net migration.

Official figures projected that the UK’s population would grow from 68 million in 2022 to 77 million in 2046. Net migration accounted for 104% of this growth. Net migration has accounted for 98% of population growth since 2020.’

https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/the-impact-of-migration-on-uk-population-growth/

The Impact of Migration on UK Population Growth - Migration Observatory

Based on official population estimates and population projections, this briefing examines the impact of migration on recent and future UK population growth.

https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/the-impact-of-migration-on-uk-population-growth/

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bloodymary2025 · 28/08/2025 18:23

PandoraSocks · 28/08/2025 18:01

DJE media? Aka Curtis Arnold, a man with an "interesting history?

You think he is a good, reliable and impartial source of information?

Dear me.

archive.is/JJLiX

So...I think this was the entire point. If people don't like the person reporting, there going to not watch something Dismiss something intirely and rush claim that all important moral high ground. While claiming they can think critically bc they won't listen to something counter narrative as they don't listen to 'bad' things. Critical thinking unlocked.

Have you watched any of the two videos?
They just involve people who've worked at multiple hotels and sharing what they've experienced. It dosent invovle a reporters point of view.

I don't know who the guy is who's channel it is but I know its just a ytber and not connected to a news outlet - the young lad was interviewed on gbnews for longer and more indepth but I thought' better not' - bc of comments like this.

I think two people's first hand account of working In the hotels holds a lot of weight.

But literally what is the point if all you can do is bury your head. I don't know who Curtis Arnold is beyond uploading an interview but your sneering and pomp isn't doing you any favours.
The whole media landscape is questionable. Huew Edwards, BBC biase, citizen journalism verses mainstream corporataryons. But it dosent change two guys sharing there lived experience.
Someone phone the frankfurt school of critical thinking.

PandoraSocks · 28/08/2025 18:30

bloodymary2025 · 28/08/2025 18:23

So...I think this was the entire point. If people don't like the person reporting, there going to not watch something Dismiss something intirely and rush claim that all important moral high ground. While claiming they can think critically bc they won't listen to something counter narrative as they don't listen to 'bad' things. Critical thinking unlocked.

Have you watched any of the two videos?
They just involve people who've worked at multiple hotels and sharing what they've experienced. It dosent invovle a reporters point of view.

I don't know who the guy is who's channel it is but I know its just a ytber and not connected to a news outlet - the young lad was interviewed on gbnews for longer and more indepth but I thought' better not' - bc of comments like this.

I think two people's first hand account of working In the hotels holds a lot of weight.

But literally what is the point if all you can do is bury your head. I don't know who Curtis Arnold is beyond uploading an interview but your sneering and pomp isn't doing you any favours.
The whole media landscape is questionable. Huew Edwards, BBC biase, citizen journalism verses mainstream corporataryons. But it dosent change two guys sharing there lived experience.
Someone phone the frankfurt school of critical thinking.

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This is a pound shop Yaxley-Lennon. I don't want to give him the clicks. I cannot trust his sources or motives.

TopPocketFind · 28/08/2025 18:31

Priority access to NHS fact checked

https://fullfact.org/immigration/asylum-seekers-nhs-waiting-lists/

TopPocketFind · 28/08/2025 18:38

https://fullfact.org/immigration/former-employee-hotel-asylum-support-mobile-phones/

Social media posts sharing a viral interview with a man who is supposedly a former employee at hotels accommodating asylum seekers makes a number of claims about what they receive. He claims they get free mobile phones paid for by “taxpayers” and £70 a week in addition to free meals. But neither of these claims is quite correct.

Absentmindedsmile · 28/08/2025 18:38

PandoraSocks · 28/08/2025 18:30

This is a pound shop Yaxley-Lennon. I don't want to give him the clicks. I cannot trust his sources or motives.

‘I cannot trust his sources or motives.’

Ha ha. I’d say the same about several guardian journalists.

(I agree YL is a yob)

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LupaMoonhowl · 28/08/2025 18:40

CorneliaCupp · 28/08/2025 17:19

Asylum seekers houses in hotels do no getting new mobile phones or priority access to the NHS.
They MAY receive a phone from a charity, and have the same access to the NHS as you and I.

Then the ‘charities’ need to lose their charitable status.
And access to NHS should not be provided/ we really are mugs allowing this.

poetryandwine · 28/08/2025 18:40

TopPocketFind · 28/08/2025 18:31

Thank you, again.

Again for those who don’t read, the NHS has explained to the nonpartisan organisation Full Fact that asylum seekers are incorporated into wait lists for NHS care just like everyone else, prioritised on the basis of clinical need.

TopPocketFind · 28/08/2025 18:42

LupaMoonhowl · 28/08/2025 18:40

Then the ‘charities’ need to lose their charitable status.
And access to NHS should not be provided/ we really are mugs allowing this.

Would you rather diseases go unchecked?

poetryandwine · 28/08/2025 18:43

LupaMoonhowl · 28/08/2025 18:40

Then the ‘charities’ need to lose their charitable status.
And access to NHS should not be provided/ we really are mugs allowing this.

Please explain why providing used phones to asylum seekers is a reason for losing charitable status.

Other charities regularly provide used phones and laptops to various other groups of people who need them and cannot afford them.

TopPocketFind · 28/08/2025 18:55

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk-politics/2025/07/immigrants-did-not-cause-britains-social-housing-shortage

Immigrants did not cause Britain’s social housing shortage
The idea that British nationals are passed over for social housing is a myth that refuses to die.

bloodymary2025 · 28/08/2025 19:04

PandoraSocks · 28/08/2025 18:30

This is a pound shop Yaxley-Lennon. I don't want to give him the clicks. I cannot trust his sources or motives.

If your more comfortable several other yters have mirrored / reacted to the same recording under different accounts....

But it's going to be the same answer everytime right? Braying for sources and then sneering and acting offended, like it's an act of moral superiority to not listen to someone's first hand lived experience- hint you don't have to agree with it.

The source is the guys speaking not who ever is the uploader in question.

It's like if someone captured a car crash on their phone camera, and sent it to a news outlet but you happened to know the person filming and think their knob , car crash didn't happen?

CorneliaCupp · 28/08/2025 19:11

LupaMoonhowl · 28/08/2025 18:40

Then the ‘charities’ need to lose their charitable status.
And access to NHS should not be provided/ we really are mugs allowing this.

Will you be telling the children who are seeking asylum that they can't access the NHS, and so better be careful not to have an accident or get sick as they will be left to die?

Winter2020 · 28/08/2025 19:15

TopPocketFind · 28/08/2025 18:55

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk-politics/2025/07/immigrants-did-not-cause-britains-social-housing-shortage

Immigrants did not cause Britain’s social housing shortage
The idea that British nationals are passed over for social housing is a myth that refuses to die.

The idea that up to a million people a year can move to a country and not affect the availability of housing is completely laughable. Who are you kidding?

TopPocketFind · 28/08/2025 19:30

Winter2020 · 28/08/2025 19:15

The idea that up to a million people a year can move to a country and not affect the availability of housing is completely laughable. Who are you kidding?

Are you blaming immigrants rather than the government for not buidling enough houses?

And net imigration is considerably down from the high of 2023