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Are there English flags out near you?

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olderandnonthewiser · 24/08/2025 13:56

Left the North East this morning and saw a few, lots on the motorway bridges and our local fb page is full of them.

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Sirzy · 24/08/2025 18:37

MayaPinion · 24/08/2025 18:26

We have a few on the main road and on the pelican crossings. I think it’s brilliant that we’re trying to take back the flag from the racism and football hooliganism with which it’s normally associated as it’s become an awful symbol of aggression and hate. It’s great that we’re finally celebrating women’s rugby with the pride our team deserves and it’s great the men have got behind it as many of them were bloody rude about women’s football in spite of our huge success.

The flags here remind me of the union flag flying throughout Northern Ireland during the 12th weekend when the ‘loyalists’ burn pallets with ‘nationalist’ effigies on them to ‘Celebrate Their Culture’ and belonging to a nation that couldn’t give a flying fuck about them.

It took me a second to get the sarcasm but overall your spot on.

I bet most of those flying flags couldn’t tell you which month St George’s day is in! (And that’s ignoring the heritage of St George himself)

BitOutOfPractice · 24/08/2025 18:38

SigmundinaCafe · 24/08/2025 15:40

I spend August at the seaside in Italy—where I am currently—and it’s refreshing to see plenty of ‘Il Tricolore’ flags proudly on display, as they should be.

That’s why I’m genuinely delighted to hear about the preponderance of Union Flags and St George’s Flags going up across the UK. Symbols of national identity, when embraced in a healthy and thoughtful way, can serve as a reminder of who we are and what we stand for.

Politically, I align with broadly social democratic principles, but I’ve become increasingly concerned by the cultural and moral demoralisation of the West in recent years. When we lose faith in our own heritage, moral foundations, and collective achievements, we don’t become more enlightened—we become more vulnerable: vulnerable to ideological extremism (Islamist extremism remains MI5’s most resource-intensive threat), and to internal fragmentation. In this vacuum, pride and gratitude are often replaced by shame, guilt, and a corrosive self-loathing.

This problem is made worse by the tendency of many British institutions to engage in endless self-flagellation—constantly apologising for colonialism, slavery, and past injustices—without giving proportionate recognition to the immense progress, sacrifices, and enduring values that Western democracies have also delivered: democracy, individual rights, the rule of law, and scientific innovation among them. This imbalance is not only self-defeating—it’s historically dishonest.

Add to that the rise of identity politics, which increasingly elevates group identity (race, gender, sexuality) above individual merit and shared civic values. The result is division, resentment, and the erosion of reasoned debate in favour of emotional outrage and ideological orthodoxy.

We also have to talk honestly about immigration. Uncontrolled immigration across Europe has contributed to real cultural tensions—not because of race or religion per se, but because of a widespread failure to assert and defend core societal values, and to expect integration from newcomers. Too often, any attempt to raise these issues is met with silence, denial, or accusations of racism and xenophobia. But ignoring the problem doesn’t make it go away—it just deepens the disconnect between public concern and elite discourse.

So yes, perhaps something as simple as putting up our national flags can serve as a cultural prompt—a reminder to reaffirm our Western values: freedom, rational inquiry, individual rights, and the rule of law. It can also be a moment to re-engage with our history honestly: acknowledging its faults without erasing its achievements. And perhaps most importantly, to foster the intellectual courage needed to resist ideological conformity and reclaim the self-confidence that a free and open society requires.

It would be lovely to think that these flags are out as a reminder of progressivism and a celebration of all the great, inclusive, and liberal parts of British culture. But they are not. And you sound very naive for thinking they are.

florizel13 · 24/08/2025 18:39

Not England flags but Pride flags. Someone commented on my local facebook page how nice it was that our village was supporting diversity. Cue lots of knuckledraggers commenting "where's the England flags then" ....what had that got to do with Pride 😂

Zingzoomyzingy · 24/08/2025 18:45

Letthesunblaze · 24/08/2025 14:28

exactly this. People are fed up being told we can't celebrate our nation,. our flag, and our culture. But other people can celebrate theirs.

Yes, I was pleased to see some up where I live. The idea that we can’t celebrate our own nation sucks.

Sirzy · 24/08/2025 18:46

Zingzoomyzingy · 24/08/2025 18:45

Yes, I was pleased to see some up where I live. The idea that we can’t celebrate our own nation sucks.

Do you genuinely believe that they are up to “celebrate our nation” rather than to try to intimate those who don’t fit into the narrative some have of what our nation should look like?

Sturtium · 24/08/2025 18:47

florizel13 · 24/08/2025 18:39

Not England flags but Pride flags. Someone commented on my local facebook page how nice it was that our village was supporting diversity. Cue lots of knuckledraggers commenting "where's the England flags then" ....what had that got to do with Pride 😂

Oh, those knuckledraggers! How hilarious they are!

Sturtium · 24/08/2025 18:48

Sirzy · 24/08/2025 18:46

Do you genuinely believe that they are up to “celebrate our nation” rather than to try to intimate those who don’t fit into the narrative some have of what our nation should look like?

Do you genuinely believe you can nag people into discrediting their own flag?

Zingzoomyzingy · 24/08/2025 18:48

Sirzy · 24/08/2025 18:46

Do you genuinely believe that they are up to “celebrate our nation” rather than to try to intimate those who don’t fit into the narrative some have of what our nation should look like?

Yes.

BambooBambou · 24/08/2025 18:48

MayaPinion · 24/08/2025 18:26

We have a few on the main road and on the pelican crossings. I think it’s brilliant that we’re trying to take back the flag from the racism and football hooliganism with which it’s normally associated as it’s become an awful symbol of aggression and hate. It’s great that we’re finally celebrating women’s rugby with the pride our team deserves and it’s great the men have got behind it as many of them were bloody rude about women’s football in spite of our huge success.

The flags here remind me of the union flag flying throughout Northern Ireland during the 12th weekend when the ‘loyalists’ burn pallets with ‘nationalist’ effigies on them to ‘Celebrate Their Culture’ and belonging to a nation that couldn’t give a flying fuck about them.

How is it "taking back the flag" when they are being hung by masked people and roundabouts are being vandalised? It feels that the flags have been very much hijacked over the years by the far right and by racists, and as a consequence I don't feel proud of them, and this action is by no means helping.

Sirzy · 24/08/2025 18:48

Sturtium · 24/08/2025 18:48

Do you genuinely believe you can nag people into discrediting their own flag?

I’m not nagging anyone. I am simply questioning the motives of those currently deciding to fly them having shown no interest previously.

Zingzoomyzingy · 24/08/2025 18:49

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SquashPenguin · 24/08/2025 18:51

Haven’t Britain First given a donation towards the cost of the flags? I read the ‘warriors’ putting them up (or whatever it is they call themselves) are wearing masks whilst doing it. Something about all of that doesn’t sit quite right. It’s almost as if there’s a far right agenda behind it…

MrsSkylerWhite · 24/08/2025 18:52

Congratulations, @Zingzoomyzingy .
You can recognise two different flags and stab the appropriate buttons.
Well done you.

bombastix · 24/08/2025 18:56

I don’t think we’ll get anywhere by just painting flag flyers as ignorant. Some of them will be far right activists. A number of them will be people with sod all except this flag and an expectation of recognition by others. It’s hard it seems for people to understand that even if symbolism is cheap it is something you can do, particularly if you feel powerless or at the bottom of the pile in your own country.

Politicians of all kinds are quick enough UK wrap themselves in a flag of it suits. To be honest it comes across as being desperate. Somebody in power should be paying strong attention to these places.

Zingzoomyzingy · 24/08/2025 19:09

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Sturtium · 24/08/2025 19:16

Sirzy · 24/08/2025 18:48

I’m not nagging anyone. I am simply questioning the motives of those currently deciding to fly them having shown no interest previously.

Why? Are you a detective that must dig and dig to get The Truth, in your imagination?

There are lots of human beings arent there. They each have thoughts and feelings. There are flags all over the place.

You think you going to unveil something, on mumsnet, that only you can unveil, with your super skills?

purdypuma · 24/08/2025 19:18

MrsSkylerWhite · 24/08/2025 17:23

No but it might prevent some asylum seekers being fearful.

Tbh I can't see it bothering a lot of asylum seekers. A lot who put these flags up are all mouth. Local councils telling people to take flags down is not going to stop people feeling resentful towards asylum seekers. If local councils allow the flags to stay put then it might just stop the violence reigniting that we witnessed last year.

MayaPinion · 24/08/2025 19:22

Sturtium · 24/08/2025 18:48

Do you genuinely believe you can nag people into discrediting their own flag?

To be fair, that ship sailed a long time ago. The England flag is widely discredited as it’s associated with football hooliganism and had been for decades. Back in the day you couldn’t watch the news without having to sit though a load of English trogs trying to kick the shit out of anyone who didn’t support an English team. Pissed up topless gammons roaming through the streets just looking for a fight, not a brain cell between them. For many, that’s what the England flag means.

Duckyfondant · 24/08/2025 19:28

I like it when the flags go up to celebrate or remember something special. This doesn't feel the same

sanityisamyth · 24/08/2025 19:29

No as live in Wales. I’d happily put one up if I still lived in England. There are thousands of Welsh flags flying in Wales as they’re proud of their country. Why can’t the English fly the St George?

the5thgoldengirl · 24/08/2025 19:32

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Suednymph · 24/08/2025 19:36

As I am in Ireland thankfully not or another war would be on its way lol That said my Irish born family who moved to England in their teens all have theirs out cos ye know, them immigrants need to be shown who is boss and stuff.... it baffles me way beyond belief the irony and stupidity to be quite honest from them.

NewYorkSummer · 24/08/2025 20:06

sanityisamyth · 24/08/2025 19:29

No as live in Wales. I’d happily put one up if I still lived in England. There are thousands of Welsh flags flying in Wales as they’re proud of their country. Why can’t the English fly the St George?

Cos racism 🙄 Welsh flags, fine. Scottish flags, fine. English flags? No, you must be racist. A very small minority of dickheads have appropriated it for their own purposes and ruined it for any genuine person, English or not, who may wish to hang a flag out.

MrsSkylerWhite · 24/08/2025 20:10

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CountryQueen · 24/08/2025 20:13

I’d love a flag. I bloody love flags 🤣

Just don’t want to look like a racist thicko