Illegal Immigrants In Hotels

[Goldengirl123]

What are your thoughts?

Id also very interested to know how these young men can sort out , for example,Syria just like that...

My great grandfather was an illegal immigrant, in the sense that he just came(as a very young man) and found his way, got work and stayed. There were no asylum seeker hotels or benefits, he just found a job, things being less bureaucratic then.
He later married a woman from his own ethnic background.
Young men have always struck out to find better places to be, as they are the least vulnerable.
If it hadn’t been for Brexit the asylum claims could have been processed much faster. I’m sure the asylum claims are not all genuine, but some will be. All countries accept some asylum seekers.
We do have an issue of excessive mass migration in too short a space of time, and this has been the case for several years, which does cause problems, but I’m not sure the asylum seekers are the bulk of this.

@WhineAndWine1 ,

And here we go. I am Jewish and my parents were immigrants. Your go to insult to other anyone who disagrees of ‘racism’ just doesn’t land I am afraid. And, if you prefer the views of an Indian 2nd generation immigrant, as they have darker skin, I recommend you read and absorb this brilliant article from The Times today. Is Matthew Syed also a racist?

Commonsense voters see the abject folly of the West’s purity spiral

https://www.thetimes.com/article/6321637a-1ab5-4250-b36c-c315b2bcfff2?shareToken=42f242395029eb84bf29bbb666bd7a99

‘Your “£150 a night hotel” argument is a myth. The government pays bulk rates to dump people in whatever empty spaces they can find because they’ve created a backlog that leaves asylum seekers stuck in limbo for years. If owners are profiteering, blame the government, not the people who have lost everything.’

I accidentally own a share of an asylum seeker hotel (I invested in it as a redevelopment before it accepted asylum seekers). Let me assure you, I know of what I speak here. It’s been one of my best investments!

‘As for people “basking in 22 degrees with 3 hot meals a day,” the sneering language says it all. Nobody fleeing war, torture or persecution is “basking.” They’re surviving.’

Another dog whistle to your supporters. Those genuinely fleeing hardship don’t destroy their documents. A lot (not all, but a lot) of these are economic immigrants.

Speaking as an immigrant myself, I think a big part of the problem is that the govt has no real idea who is in the country and i would prefer to see a focus on removing visa overstayers and others who have no legal right to be there rather on the focus being on the asylum seekers, who are a small minority. Family reunification should be more strict maybe. People without ILR committing crimes should be deported and not held in British jails. Brexit has buggered so much up. ID cards would help.

I think we need a safe and legal route for people at risk to enter the country, and we need to accommodate them appropriately whilst processing their applications at a sensible speed.

The government does need to take back some control, though. With the current "system" being run exclusively by organised criminal gangs, no wonder it's predominantly young men who make it across here (BBC had a report recently showing videos of women with children trying to board these illegal boats in Northern France, but repeatedly being pushed aside by young men).

Illegal immigrants are detained and deported, why do you think that isn’t happening? Illegal immigrants are not being housed in hotels in the UK.

A homeless British person is provided with housing, they are also (depending on income) provided with things such as universal credit, reduced childcare costs, free prescriptions, free dental care, cheapee glasses, free schoop meals for their children. Odd that you think this is less than the support given to an illegal immigrant in a detention centre.

I think that the men coming over on boats should be given a tent, a sleeping bag, fed, and that's it. Same as what they get in France.

It does exist. The young lad in the Flintoff programme us an example.

Can I see your data regarding the majority being from safe countries and taking two flights? The data I can find certainly suggests a significant number of people arriving via boat or other unauthorised means, around 175,000 between 2020-2024; https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/unauthorised-migration-in-the-uk/

Unfortunately the data for people arriving by plane is not available for the same period so I am not saying you’re wrong, I’d just be interested to know the source you are using to make your claims?

Their hotels are closed when AS are there. Don’t people realise this?

the contract is for exclusive use of the building to house AS. The hotel is not operational at all.

I knew there were mistruths floating around but this one has really suprised me. That people think AS are just hired a room in a normal hotel with holiday makers and business people staying alongside them 😭

And actually if people believe these hotels are open to the public why the hell are they ok with people protesting outside it?!?

https://www.gov.uk/asylum-support/what-youll-get

so £50 a week or £10 if your accommodation provides food. Sounds like fun!

I thought they were looking at doing this, looking for landlords to house people in HMOs probably, rather than a whole house

Naive.

I bet a travel lodge looks pretty comfortable if you are sleeping rough in December.

My name Golden girl means I am in my golden years actually

You want (more) tents and sleeping bags on the streets?

They are not illegal immigrants they are asylum seekers. It is not illegal to claim asylum.
I sometimes wonder how people who protest would have behaved in the second world war when the UK housed Jewish refugees escaping from Nazi Germany? They were asylum seekers too.

Asylum seekers aren’t in Radison luxury, or do you believe no matter how many times a building changes hands it is still the original company?

So you want asylum seekers to live in the NEC, the o2 etc?

Apply for asylum in their first safe country (likely Turkey/North Africa). Never England. Wait in an asylum centre whilst claim is being processed.

Preferably the adult men should go and fight the regime they are running from, and improve their own country.

I’ve got an idea. We can house the asylum seekers who come here illegally by all those who campaign to allow them to enter and say refugees welcome taking a few each. Then everyone is happy. The refugees get a nice home, the people who want them to be here can support and help them and those thst don’t want them to be housed in hotels can be happy. And the government doesn’t have to pay so saves money. Everybody wins.

Urgh another one of these ill informed threads. Only asylum seekers or those with status to remain who are certified refugees are being housed by local authorities. Everyone has the RIGHT to seek asylum, the means of entry to the country do not actually matter provided asylum is sought at the first opportune moment. Therefore absolutely none of the people you are talking about are "illegal immigrants" that type of language is intentionally misused in order to scapegoat and villainise a vulnerable group of people who make up an incredibly small percentage of our immigrant population.

If you're going to start one of these threads or engage with one then at the very least educate yourself properly outside of the daily fail.

It would also serve you to look into the connection between certain government parties and certain papers. There's a financial and power based reason why some papers are pushing this agenda and its not remotely to benefit the working person in the way they like to pretend.

If you do charity work for the homeless then I genuinely question why this is even a question - I also work with homeless people. Local people who are homeless with complex needs are also offered to be housed in hotels and bnbs. Many local homeless also are unable to sustain this type of accommodation due to other issues such as addiction or complex mental health which is often linked to the reason why they are homeless in the first place. There will also be reasons why someone may not be offered this type of accommodation usually due to prior violent behaviour/ sexual offences/arson convictions which could mean they are a risk to others living there.

Noone is being offered a hotel stay out of the public purse without being entitled to it in the first place.

It's also not the fault of asylum seekers that our system is inefficient and snail-paced and that they are not allowed to work while waiting on their status being approved. If we allowed them to work then they could be paying rent. The vast majority of asylum seekers who get refugee status also go on into full time employment and all of the asylum seekers i know are volunteering and studying while they wait to try and be productive with their time and integrate into society.

Another day another MN thread about migrants living (the high life) in UK hotels 🥱

There is indeed a sizeable issue in west London with elderly Irish men who did the same and now find they have no secure or suitable housing in their old age

They might be. But HMOs are often awful and again we get people protesting and lodging complaints against houses being turned into HMOs (successfully in SE London). No one wants the house next to them being a HMO full of asylum seekers so it won't solve the problem. Plus it's just taking more housing stock off the market.
May as well leave them in hotels.