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Illegal Immigrants In Hotels

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Goldengirl123 · 24/08/2025 10:42

What are your thoughts?

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DarkYearForMySoul · 24/08/2025 17:50

ShesLump · 24/08/2025 17:45

Yet certain posters here claim they were never given the chance to have a say.

I also wonder what these people think Reform will actually do. Because I bet you Farage will do absolutely fuck all.

The ‘right-leaning/lack of compassion/ Farage-lovers’ are very quick to call people woke and snowflakes. Just wish they’d stop flippin’ moaning about getting what they voted for.
If they made a mistake, own it, and help us put it right rejoining the EU.

@Sheknowsaboutme did you vote for Brexit? If so will you take some responsibility for this?

WooleyMunky · 24/08/2025 17:51

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Scentedjasmin · 24/08/2025 17:51

Well, it's pretty obvious that out of those who entered illegally on small boats, the vast majority are young males from a few countries not at war. This isn't made up by the right wing tabloids (although they do capitalise on those images). However, the statistics bear it out. 76% are young male. This is an interesting website with lots of information and data.
https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/people-crossing-the-english-channel-in-small-boats/

People crossing the English Channel in small boats - Migration Observatory

This briefing examines the phenomenon of people crossing the English Channel in small boats.

https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/people-crossing-the-english-channel-in-small-boats/

JenniferBooth · 24/08/2025 17:51

ShesLump · 24/08/2025 17:05

I don’t know, but lots of people work in cafes and bars for the same wage as picking veg so imagine it’s to do with the fact that the work is tough. Or caring or hospital portering. But I don’t begrudge farmers who struggle in general to pay minimum wage for it, life for a farmer is tough as it is. Or the NHS. These jobs need doing and if no one from Britain wants to do them then it will have to be someone else. The farmers have talked about this many times. What else are they supposed to do? The supermarkets have got farmers bent over a barrel as it is, maybe blame them for the fact farmers can’t pay more. But don’t blame the people who are willing to do a hard days work to pick your food.

People who live in social housing are not allowed to live away from their homes for long enough to do LIVE IN food picking jobs, most of these jobs involve live in accomodation If you are allocated SH you are supposed to actually live in it. Its part of your tenancy agreement I have said this many times on here, You want poorer ppl in this country to fruit pick? Because it is those on a low income and who live in rented housing who would be expected to do this! Well the law on tenancies and occupation will have to change Wonder how many of the SH tenant haters here would go for this eh! Given that it would also mean giving SH tenants more rights and that would also mean going away for their own leisure as well as live in fruit picking.

Oioisavaloy27 · 24/08/2025 17:51

Usernameunavailableagain12 · 24/08/2025 17:48

Not to mention sexual assault

So nothing to do with the cost of living? Or the aging population? Drugs, alchol And as for the sexual assault people of all races are at it that's not to say it's right because it's wrong but you can't blame everything on immigration.

Petitchat · 24/08/2025 17:51

ShesLump · 24/08/2025 17:27

I also lived in Spain and left recently and at no point did anyone ever suggest that Britain is a laughing stock and yes, we knew a lot of locals. And I fail to see what your dad getting beaten up has to do with any of this.

And no, I don’t think we need a vote on this. How come you aren’t asking whether we vote on continuing to supply arms? Do you think those people got a vote on us selling arms to those bombing and killing them? As we do around the world? Nah you don’t care about that at all. Your parents were lucky to get to live somewhere else and that’s fine, but how dare someone want to come and live where you do? Have you heard yourself?

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Who said I don't care about us selling arms? I have never said that.
Stop making things up.

And if you find the current situation in our country acceptable, so be it.
You're obviously very angry about something though?

IdaGlossop · 24/08/2025 17:51

Sheknowsaboutme · 24/08/2025 17:47

Perhaps the way forward is to place these immigrants/seekers in the homes of those happy to support them. I mean, more than most on here would be happy to have one in their homes surely?

'One'? How about 'an asylum seeker' or 'a migrant' instead of turning a fellow human going into an object?

ShesLump · 24/08/2025 17:51

Usernameunavailableagain12 · 24/08/2025 17:48

Not to mention sexual assault

Except that sexual assault is mostly carried out by Brits. By a massive majority. People keep trying to use this as an excuse but it falls flat on its face when you actually look at the statistics and realise that Brits commit most sexual offences in Britain. So instead of frothing about immigrants, you should be looking at how to prevent sexual offences in this country starting from educational age instead.

Falseknock · 24/08/2025 17:51

Usernameunavailableagain12 · 24/08/2025 17:48

Not to mention sexual assault

@CommonAsMucklowe Maybe we have a legal system to deal with that. No way do I condone arson against men, women and children.

MumOfManyAliases · 24/08/2025 17:53

I visited Bristol today. When I was on the park and ride bus travelling through the city centre I saw a grassy area outside an old building that looked like a chapel or some other old building with three small tents pitched up on it, and it did make me wonder if we can find hotel accommodation for people from outside the UK, then why on earth are there people living on the streets and roughing it in tents?

Simonjt · 24/08/2025 17:54

JenniferBooth · 24/08/2025 17:51

People who live in social housing are not allowed to live away from their homes for long enough to do LIVE IN food picking jobs, most of these jobs involve live in accomodation If you are allocated SH you are supposed to actually live in it. Its part of your tenancy agreement I have said this many times on here, You want poorer ppl in this country to fruit pick? Because it is those on a low income and who live in rented housing who would be expected to do this! Well the law on tenancies and occupation will have to change Wonder how many of the SH tenant haters here would go for this eh! Given that it would also mean giving SH tenants more rights and that would also mean going away for their own leisure as well as live in fruit picking.

I have tried to explain this to countless people as well, it also leads to the loss of temporary housing as well.

ScarlettOYara · 24/08/2025 17:54

MumOfManyAliases · 24/08/2025 17:53

I visited Bristol today. When I was on the park and ride bus travelling through the city centre I saw a grassy area outside an old building that looked like a chapel or some other old building with three small tents pitched up on it, and it did make me wonder if we can find hotel accommodation for people from outside the UK, then why on earth are there people living on the streets and roughing it in tents?

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Who were the people living in tents?

WilfredsPies · 24/08/2025 17:54

@MyObservations

Actually, nothing like the Rwanda scheme There are differences, yes, but it’s not that far apart in terms of processing.

Yes, setting up a/some processing centres in France. I'm not suggesting it would be easy (not sure where you got that notion from) Err, from the person I was actually replying to?

I understand such a system had been discussed with the French but not taken forward And why do you think that might be?

As to taking responsibility for the potential migrants/asylum seekers, why would or should we, we don't now? They are already in France (or close to the Border at any rate) and when people apply for a visa from Europe we don't take responsibility for them We don’t take responsibility for them now because we haven’t agreed to process their claims. As I said above, when we’re telling people to make their way to a particular place in a third country for their claims to be considered, that third country is not going to want another ‘jungle’ established, where people are dependent on charities for food and washing in industrial waste (as was the situation previously). What do you think the chances of the French letting us go ahead with such a plan, unless we agree to take responsibility for them while they’re being processed? When people apply for visas, they have to demonstrate a certain financial capability (ie, that they can afford to support themselves here without recourse to public funds). It’s a ridiculous comparison.

It seems to me you can find reasons why not to try something different rather than to try something different. Currently there is no legal route save for HK Chinese, Afghans and one or 2 others but that's it, so why not have a legal route? I think it would be wonderful to have a legal route and eliminate traffickers and the dangers involved in travelling here. I just don’t believe that a centre in France is it, for the reasons I’ve given. And you haven’t given a realistic or sensible counter argument to any of them.

ShesLump · 24/08/2025 17:55

Petitchat · 24/08/2025 17:51

Who said I don't care about us selling arms? I have never said that.
Stop making things up.

And if you find the current situation in our country acceptable, so be it.
You're obviously very angry about something though?

Yeah, I’m angry about the racism in this country. I’m angry about people’s behaviour towards immigrants who are being put up in hotels whilst they go through the system. I am angry about people quietly protesting being arrested whilst others are threatening to set fire and kill being left to continue. I’m angry that we sell arms that are killing children. I am fucking angry about the way things are. You seem to think I should be ashamed of that? Well I’m not.

I’ve asked you several times about the arms situation but instead you othered on about your dad driving a taxi in Spain. I want to hear your opinion on it, what you are doing about? Not that your parents are having a lovely time living in Spain whilst you don’t think anyone should come to “YOUR” country. You want a vote on immigration here but don’t seem to have any interest or understanding as to why some people seek asylum.

sequin2000 · 24/08/2025 17:55

wrongthinker · 24/08/2025 11:43

I think that the men coming over on boats should be given a tent, a sleeping bag, fed, and that's it. Same as what they get in France.

Would you be happy for these tents to be pitched on your street??

2dogsandabudgie · 24/08/2025 17:55

Falseknock · 24/08/2025 17:21

They spend it in our shops it all comes back to the Government. Don't be so naive.

Now I know you're on a wind up. Thought you were off to work, cash in hand by any chance!

MumOfManyAliases · 24/08/2025 17:56

ScarlettOYara · 24/08/2025 17:54

Who were the people living in tents?

Well it was clearly homeless people wasn’t it.

Sheknowsaboutme · 24/08/2025 17:56

Oioisavaloy27 · 24/08/2025 17:48

Is that really your answer because you can't answer properly?

Can you give one a home? You and many other are very supportive of them.

Simonjt · 24/08/2025 17:56

MumOfManyAliases · 24/08/2025 17:53

I visited Bristol today. When I was on the park and ride bus travelling through the city centre I saw a grassy area outside an old building that looked like a chapel or some other old building with three small tents pitched up on it, and it did make me wonder if we can find hotel accommodation for people from outside the UK, then why on earth are there people living on the streets and roughing it in tents?

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Usually due to addiction, meaning they are unable to stick to drug and alcohol free rules in homeless shelters and temporary housing facilities. I used to volunteer a lot with the homeless, where I lived housing for the homeless was at about 75% capacity as those with addiction wouldn’t last. Frustratingly addiction services in the UK are very poor. Our sons birth mum is homeless and a rough sleeper, this is because her addiction means she chooses drugs and a tent over recovery and a safe and clean shelter.

Falseknock · 24/08/2025 17:57

MumOfManyAliases · 24/08/2025 17:53

I visited Bristol today. When I was on the park and ride bus travelling through the city centre I saw a grassy area outside an old building that looked like a chapel or some other old building with three small tents pitched up on it, and it did make me wonder if we can find hotel accommodation for people from outside the UK, then why on earth are there people living on the streets and roughing it in tents?

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They are waiting for a free home but that home comes with bills. My partner visits properties all the time and he says some people don't know how to live in a home. They live in squalor shit everywhere dirty toilets full off shit. We have the worst homelessness in Europe because we are lazy and don't want to work. In order to have a house you need a job so you can pay bills and rent/mortgage. We make too many excuses for why our citizens don't work.

Oioisavaloy27 · 24/08/2025 17:58

Simonjt · 24/08/2025 17:56

Usually due to addiction, meaning they are unable to stick to drug and alcohol free rules in homeless shelters and temporary housing facilities. I used to volunteer a lot with the homeless, where I lived housing for the homeless was at about 75% capacity as those with addiction wouldn’t last. Frustratingly addiction services in the UK are very poor. Our sons birth mum is homeless and a rough sleeper, this is because her addiction means she chooses drugs and a tent over recovery and a safe and clean shelter.

Unfortunately some people don't have the capability to understand that

Falseknock · 24/08/2025 17:58

2dogsandabudgie · 24/08/2025 17:55

Now I know you're on a wind up. Thought you were off to work, cash in hand by any chance!

Sometimes I am also self employed. You sound stuck.

Baninarama · 24/08/2025 17:59

Scentedjasmin · 24/08/2025 17:51

Well, it's pretty obvious that out of those who entered illegally on small boats, the vast majority are young males from a few countries not at war. This isn't made up by the right wing tabloids (although they do capitalise on those images). However, the statistics bear it out. 76% are young male. This is an interesting website with lots of information and data.
https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/people-crossing-the-english-channel-in-small-boats/

Of course they're mainly young men. Their families save up and send them as they're physically strongest and most likely to survive the process then build a life for themselves, whereas women risk being raped and then placed in brothels. If you were a desperate family, who would you send?

ShesLump · 24/08/2025 17:59

Falseknock · 24/08/2025 17:57

They are waiting for a free home but that home comes with bills. My partner visits properties all the time and he says some people don't know how to live in a home. They live in squalor shit everywhere dirty toilets full off shit. We have the worst homelessness in Europe because we are lazy and don't want to work. In order to have a house you need a job so you can pay bills and rent/mortgage. We make too many excuses for why our citizens don't work.

Lots of homeless people are put up in hotels and B&Bs, especially families.

And we don’t have the highest or “worst” homeless rate (or “homelessness) in Europe. Check your facts first.

PrincessofWells · 24/08/2025 18:01

Goldengirl123 · 24/08/2025 10:57

Why?

Because you clearly have a right wing agenda and a goady shitty nasty personality . . .

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