Illegal Immigrants In Hotels

[Goldengirl123]

What are your thoughts?

I’m not going to debate the pros and cons of each location but the UK has policies regarding the treatment of asylum seekers. Dumping them on an uninhabited island isn’t going to be part of that. And whatever your feelings on single men, it’s absolutely unacceptable for women and children.

Then you need to report them. They’re working illegally.

Who said anything about “dumping them”?

So- are they asylum seekers or economic migrants? Make your mind up.

They are not coming from a war torn country.
They are coming from France.

Why don't they stay in France or, as they ought to, the first safe country they arrive in? That's what an asylum seeker is supposed to do.

They want to get to the UK.

I wonder why that is?

Many are working on the black market, illegally.

If they want to work here and are not seeking asylum, they can apply legally as immigrants.

@mumsnet please bring back the laughing emoji

🤦‍♀️ You’re claiming that they’re paying taxes though. And if they’re working illegally then they very clearly aren’t paying taxes!

Mad isn’t it. Just get a couple of jobs and you’ll have a house in no time, easy as that for everyone.

The point is it's illegal because they will only be able to work cash in hand so won't be paying tax or NI.

Why does anyone need to be asked? And in what country is anyone asked? Immigration and asylum seeking exists across the globe, and has done throughout time, and I don’t recall any news articles about people voting on whether it should happen or not. Happy to be corrected.

And “Our country” indeed. It was pure luck that any of us were born in the UK. Luck. That’s it. You were born into privilege. Maybe it’s time to share some of that privilege with people who were not so lucky.

Have some compassion. Some empathy. Maybe read some of the stories.

What an unintelligent response to an opinion from someone you don't even know.

My parents live in Spain. They learned the language. My dad was beaten up by other taxi drivers when he tried to taxi.

They became friends with Spaniards who came to our wedding.
We couldn't get married there because you have to live there for three years first.
We had to get married in Gibraltar which was British.

The Spanish (at that time) refused to give employment to foreigners. They were obliged by law to employ spaniards first.

I can tell you from experience, Britain is now a laughing stock in Spain.

And obviously, you don't give a shit that Britain was never asked to vote whether we wanted this massive influx.

Can we all start accepting they are not coming from a war torn country.

They are coming from France or Europe, across the Channel.

What's wrong with France?

If they are genuinely fleeing for their lives, why make the crossing to the UK?

They are supposed to stay in the first safe country they arrive in.

We're a laughing stock.

Ok, so we put the necessary and appropriate infrastructure in place. The rest of my initial post still stands.

Those wages and conditions will change when the employers can't get anyone to do the jobs for the poor pay and conditions - that is if the Government don't allow the poor of the world to be imported to do it.

Are you a ‘journalist’ fishing for some feedback for one of the lovely newspapers that spew hate on a regular basis?

They spend it in our shops it all comes back to the Government. Don't be so naive.

They don’t have to stay in the first country. Change the ECHR then - but it won’t happen because of the Good Friday Agreement

The system is broken. As are many systems in our country.
It all feels a mess and slightly hostile at times.

I've been volunteering at a food bank for a few years and at a homeless charity before that. I've never once come across these concerned citizens who won't stop spewing out their anti-migrant anti-refugee nonsense. Where are the mass protests demanding anti austerity policies, better housing, etc?

Funny you should mention the NHS, which would be decimated if all the overseas staff left. The housing crisis and crumbling public services are a real problem that needs addressing, but it's not caused by migration and asylum seekers, who by the way are only 4% of overall immigration - a drop in the ocean.

You are happy to suggest that all asylum seekers are a threat to women, but so wounded and offended by me pointing out the breathtaking ignorance of your post

A journalist doesn't need feedback.
All they need do is look at the unrest there was at the weekend and the results of the Mori polls which show the vast majority of the Uk is FED UP with illegal migrants as we are FULL UP.

Our island has a huge population density compared to France but France won't have them so they are basically allowing them to make the crossing here.

Christ on a bike. How much do fruit pickers pay in tax? Or carers? It doesn't work, it doesn't add up! Why are there still tens of thousands of vacancies in care homes and the NHS then? If mass immigration is such a success and they are all doing all this work and contributing so much to the tax take, why are we in so much debt, why is everything on its last legs? Why aren't we rolling in it and doing well and building new towns and cities and power stations and reservoirs and ambulances and doctors surgeries and houses with all that tax? These arguments make no sense whatsoever. Think about why there is a 4 year wait for the orthodontist. Or why its so difficult for young people to do almost anything you can think of now, from finding a place to rent to getting a summer job to booking a driving test. There. Are. Just. Too. Many. People.

I disagree. I grew up there. I travel home frequently. My entire family lives there. My children are UK citizens and may choose to live there when they are grown up. And maybe I will move home one day and subsequently need to stay informed on the environment. I have only been out of the country for 6 years and didn’t move into a cave.

We need to come out of the ECHR but the point is why do they want to come here?

The land of milk and honey- benefits.

Actually, nothing like the Rwanda scheme. Yes, setting up a/some processing centres in France. I'm not suggesting it would be easy (not sure where you got that notion from) and I understand such a system had been discussed with the French but not taken forward. As to taking responsibility for the potential migrants/asylum seekers, why would or should we, we don't now? They are already in France (or close to the Border at any rate) and when people apply for a visa from Europe we don't take responsibility for them.
It seems to me you can find reasons why not to try something different rather than to try something different. Currently there is no legal route save for HK Chinese, Afghans and one or 2 others but that's it, so why not have a legal route?

Our old people are in trouble they can't afford to live and so they end up in the system. They are suffering our young people should be working in these homes and hospitals helping to look after our elderly people with pride. Young people are following their parents signing on and vaping.

If they have reached France they are safe - why are they risking their lives time and again to reach the UK. The reason is we are a soft touch, offering all kinds of handouts that France don’t. Come on wake up - it’s not safety the majority are looking for.