Illegal Immigrants In Hotels

[Goldengirl123]

What are your thoughts?

I think the view of this differs depending on the hotel. Im from one of the towns that is in the news recently for its asylum seekers. We have one hotel that is full of only men, one of which sexually assaulted a child in our highroad resulting in now bi-weekly protests. Within the same town we have another hotel that is women, children and some men (so families together). No protests whatsoever for that hotel

If you really believe that I'm racist (which I'm not ) report me.

Witch hunting people's posts and names is sinister and odd.

You're willfully misinterpreting my posts and it's tiring.

Do you know what ? I'm out. Have your echo chamber.... And this is why good people are silenced and vote accordingly in the UK.

Migrants do account for more rapes than Westerners in every European country that releases statistics by nationality.

Interesting. Can you provide credible sources for this data please? Data from every European country please.

@Fitzcarraldo353 @BourgeoisBabe Big difference between 1950s/60s Ireland and places like war torn Afghanistan where women can't leave the house and have to look out of their burka with one eye.

My parents came over from Dublin (separately) in the 50s and although it was was a repressive religious society (and mysoginistic), women went about their business and weren't being confined. It's a disingenuous argument.

What would you like to happen to your family if you ever need to seek asylum?

No need to be sorry but your point is not something any stable mature responsible adult thinks of as “common sense”

Try googling "boat migrants by sex". Majority men. Hotels are split into family hotels and men only hotels. I wonder why they don't want to mix lone males with women and children. Really boggles the mind.

There an awful lot of issues in all this. Today Germany is considering removing free legal advice from its illegals. That might be wise here too. It could also help speed up the process. With Climate change we are in a whole new world on the planet on these issues and I would change international law.

We have 1.1m last yera and 1.3m year before new peopole coming here. I would like that to be about zero -samd as first 30 years of mky life (that is lawful immigration - our biggest issue). Then we have about 1m illegals already here, 600k of them in London (estimate).- we removed 19,000 only last year. We need to remove more like 250,000 a year.

Separately we have vast numbers of visa over stayers - the biggest number of illegals who rarely are removed. Finally we have those in hotels and even worse HMOs when we should deal with claims within about 7 days and house them in new places - we bought in 12 days Nightingale hospitals in the pandemic as Susan Hall said the other week; so surely we can build places for people for their 7 days and then remove them.

People who say walking by a hotel is fine have no idea what mass huge numbers of new people from cultures that treat women as property mean. Even just going into our local tube station is like being exported to Teheran at times just in terms of the large groups of men, the way they look at women in a way even white van men don't in the UK and much else. It is a whole new world when you become the minority in your own land and when the new people do not adopt your culture.

Democracy works. if the state does not deal with all of this the people will vote accordingly.

This is a complex statistic though.
It's based on rape convictions and there is bias in both rape reporting and the judicial system.
That said, more could be done to educate migrants on British morality and the law.
It's naive to think all migrants are good people, but with experience I believe the vast majority are.
I don't think there is any greater % of migrants willing to commit crimes than there are British nationals.

I agree with those who have said that we need to tackle the unofficial jobs such as in car washes and nail bars that make the UK a more attractive place to seek asylum than it would be otherwise. I'd also end any delivery service on mopeds with L plates as another action.

100% this. It’s depressing how easily manipulated people are.

I have an asylum seekers hotel right by me, it's an old victorian police station that hasn't been used for decades. Full of young men it looks like some cheap backpackers hostel, all of them are living in large room full of bunk beads, always dressed with the same clothes walking in the street with worried looks on their faces. This place has caused no issues in our comunity, unfortunately I can't say the same about the pub around the corner, packed with hooligans on the weekend and fights. Most of these asylum seekers are fleeing wars, they're waiting to get their papers so they can find work and start a new life in the UK. Integrating them into the system, getting them to work and start paying taxes is the home office job. We need workers paying into the system.

I can't for the life of god understand what all this recent fuss is all about. All of a sudden these guys have become the biggest problem with this country.

Really?

I haven’t witch hunted. I recognise your username as someone who has frequently caused to me to go 🤨 is all. I think you had to withdraw from another thread recently because of the amount of people you’d offended. I forget which one.

I welcome the Ukrainians as they are women & children fleeing the war. Not because of their religion or colour!!! 🫤

Not mixing single males with families is basic safeguarding - in any context

I've worked with familes living in one of these hotels. It was bloody awful conditions and causing a lot of anxiety for them. The "young men" were hanging around outside, but they had families there.
They weren't illegal - they were asylum seekers.
It's something I'll never forget.

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Not in our area and many others.

There is no longer a duty of care on local councils to provide hostels and ours have none. Shameful in my view. Next authority along has closed its walk in hostels and will only help people with a local connection.

There are many living in tents and abusive situations due to this.

I do agree with the majority of this post. Things do need to change.

however, truth is if AS were sorted they would move onto someone else to demonise. In the 90s it was teenage mums and British “benefit scroungers”- those issues have been pretty much resolved and so we have moved our hate to the next vulnerable group.

the reality is in this country, the only thing that stops people hating marginalised groups is money. The financial crash happened in 2008 and the poorer we’ve gotten the more we have hated.

If anyone is scared of walking past a hotel housing asylum seekers - you should probably be more scared of the people protesting outside. Especially if you're one of those, 'I'm just worried about the children', 'concerned nana' types. Apparently a lot of these EDL members have got previous for child sex offences and domestic violence... but they probably don't want you to know that. It's like when they interviewed that woman who took her young son to the southport riots, or various other rioters arrested now released, claiming they're not racist, just concerned. Yeah but they all have previous and are missing half their teeth. So are these the people we're supposed to stand shoulder to shoulder with? No thanks. You just are knuckle draggers and nobody wants to see your crappy spray painting roundabouts, it looks shit.

Very well said.

A former friend of mine has 2 immigrant parents from 2 different countries. My parents, grandparents, great grandparents and everyone in the family (except for SIL) were all born and brought up in England.

The reason we are no longer friends is because she was constantly spouting nonsense like "England is no longer England" (meaning there are too many immigrants) and racist slurs but would always say she's not a racist. In my view she wanted to go to rural life back in the early 1950s. I used to challenge her views occasionally which she didn't like and eventually she dumped me because she said we was tired of me not agreeing with her and most people did etc. I always thought it was incredibly ironic that somebody with her background was so racist.

Citation needed.

Have you met females from Afghanistan?

I have.

Have you met makes from Afghanistan?
I have. Hugely more respectful of women than most of the men born in the UK.

I think we need to get over calling them hotels. They are not currently hotels. It really gets on my nerves when you hear they are being housed in '4 star hotels'. No. No they aren't. A four star hotel is designated as such by the facilities and services it offers to its guests e.g. room service, concierge service etc. Asylum seekers are receiving these services. They are literally being housed there. They can't work. They are harassed when they try to leave. They have a few pounds per week to live on. It must feel like being in a prison. Yes, there might be some nice curtains at the windows but it is NOT a hotel in any definition that we would recognise. The narrative needs to change.

The claims need to be processed more quickly. People granted asylum should be supported in to permanent housing and work and people whose claims are not granted should be quickly removed. The issue is the whole system. The 'hotel' part of it is just a red herring. The asylum seekers do not get to choose their accommodation. They are placed there. It isn't like they get a brochure and choose which one they would like to stay in! It isn't down to them that they are housed in a hotel.

Sorry I don’t as I got it from a friend but I think it was from Stand Up To Racism. They have lots of great resources.