Man Falls To His Death At Wembley Oasis Concert

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Just reading a thread on Redditt about this. Terrible situation. The thing that sticks with you the most is the insane amount of alcohol that was being consumed ( it hasn’t been stated that the man who fell was drunk but a lot of people were) & apparently Wembley Stadium proudly claimed they’d sold 250K pints. Not sure if that was in one night. Many concertgoers had been drinking all day & some could hardly stand up, plus the stadium floors were like ice rinks from spilt beer (it was being thrown everywhere). I don’t drink anymore but even when I did, I couldn’t get my head round why people feel the need to get absolutely steaming drunk to have a good time.

I have been to the O2 years ago and on the top level you do feel as though you could topple over the edge.

I don't go to gigs now as I'm not good in crowds anymore, but does anyone know if there are screens in front of the rows when high up. Sorry can't explain better, but you know up in the gods your feet are nearly on the heads of those in the next tier down with nothing between you and a tumble over!

How mad would it be to have glass/perspex screens to chest height along the rows where it's so dangerous. I dunno probably not feasible or something, but it really is dangerous and vertigo inducing whether you're drunk high or sober.

Sorry to hear about the death.

Me too. I remember very little of the gig because I was so fixated on sitting still and not looking down.

At the risk of sounding dense I am struggling to understand how in these days of such strident (and let's face it often ott) health and safety measures a terrible tragedy like this was able and allowed to happen.

I went saw oasis there last Wednesday. Was pitch standing so didn’t experience the seats (although we were in the gods last year for Taylor Swift).

The alcohol situation was insane. The second oasis appeared on stage pints of beer started being chucked around. Someone poured a pint of beer down the back of my head, someone else down the back of my legs. Not intentionally, they were just drunk and unsteady.

A guy came back from the bar having bought 8 pints of beer and only one survived - his Dad was literally taking fully pints out of the trays and throwing them at the crowd.

We moved out of the crowd after about half an hour and had a much nicer time on the edge of the floor. Which I stuck to due to all the beer 😬

I’m really sorry to hear about the poor man dying. The atmosphere was so MALE and at times intimidating (although my partner is massive so generally I would get banged into then there would be MASSIVE apologies when they clocked my partner was with me).

complete contrast to the Eras tour which was female energy, peace and love and I honestly don’t remember anyone being drunk.

I’d be surprised if a person could just fall over the edge. There needs to be something that lifts them enough that it takes their body weight over the safety rails - either jumping or starting from a point higher than floor level (either standing on the seat or the ledge/guardrail or leaning over it). Gravity alone doesn’t lift you over the railings and there needs to be enough momentum to carry the heavy middle bit of the person over. Absolutely tragic but I’d be amazed if there was no individual culpability.

I was at the gig last night and have been to Wembley previously so have seen the layout.

Also took the kids to Six at Aylesbury theatre last year and had hideous slips seats with no barriers where it would be easy to plunge all 3 floors down. I hated it and couldn’t relax and wouldn’t let the kids stand and dance for the final song.

I think that's the connection op is trying to make which is the context of the thread.

Without wishing to be curmudgeonly, how are we simultaneously in a CoL crisis and also spending mega bucks on events like this? Travel, possibly accommodation, tickets and alcohol at those prices? Let alone merch. I’m amazed places still sell out.

I was told by a family member that two blokes in front of them at Saturdays concert, were doing coke - then proceeded to start a fight with the people behind them! They got covered in beer ( at least they hope it was…). They were up quite high, too. Why do people find it necessary to spoil others enjoyment?

That is so tragic.

There was a thread the other day from a poster who was worried about the safety of being up high at an O2 Oasis gig.

I have friends who went and from what they said Wembley might have sold 250k pints of beer but it felt like most of that was for throwing and not drinking

This sounds horrifying, on several levels. Utterly awful for the man and his family, and those who saw it happen. I really hope the safety of these gigs is reconsidered now, it sounds from others' comments like it's well overdue.

I had two DC with friends there on Saturday with seats at the top right next to where this poor man fell, and there were plenty of people who were not drunk.

This is very sad - people should stop rushing to blame. It might have been nothing to do with alcohol.

I wouldn't set foot near anything related to Oasis fans ever again. I depped for a tribute band for a few gigs and they were scary. I thought the Nirvana gigs were rough (and the 'kill Courtney Love' shit from the crowd was both pathetic and unnerving in the vehemence), but the Oasis ones were so bad with drinking, cocaine and aggression, I wouldn't leave the dressing room until they'd all been kicked out - which took a very long time and some very large security guys.

Conversely, the punks were lovely, as were the psychobillies.

Huh?
Because some people have more money than other people.
people choose to spend their money differently to other people
Some people choose to get into debt to pay for things they want.
Not difficult to work out and not remotely the point of this thread.

Oasis aren’t playing the O2

Bit of a strange comment. Why are so many people in a COL crisis going on holiday? Maybe people are going to gigs INSTEAD of going on holiday?

Men in a pack fuelled by alcohol and drugs. Neighbour works at a large venue and the events that attract men eg boxing, MMA are invariably a harder night for him. Did say that a recent show (female singer) was a feral crowd. However, he tells me that hard rock crowds are good to work as are teen acts eg Tate Macrae or Olivia Rodrigo as it's young women and poss mums

My comment wasn’t blaming this particular incident on alcohol, it could have been caused by any number of reasons including a general slip up. It was just discussing the amount of alcohol that some people drink at concerts in general (and has been widely spoken about at the Oasis gigs in particular).

Same - I have absolutely no fear of heights but I went to a relatively sedate event there sitting in level 4 and it just didn’t feel safe. Can’t imagine how it would be for an event where people are dancing / jumping around

@ThatsNotMyTeen and @GrammarTeacher they are wanting to remove the alcohol ban at football matches in Scotland. there are currently pilot schemes were you can buy and drink alcohol at Arbroath and Ayr football matches.

I remember that thread. I have been to venues where it's scarily high up. I don't even drink.

I've often been to places where I thought it would be so easy to fall and break something on steps if not go over the edge. There does need to be a better risk assessment in some places, and they shouldn't make them so steep or without hand rails.

My pet hate is descending steep stairs, when I'm actually clinging on for dear life with vertigo and there are people coming the other way.

In the tower of Pisa thank god we went early in the morning. They were not steep but rather polished from years of descent, and I descended several flights bum shuffling, on my own!

I went to the old Wembley stadium years ago. We were sat high up and when I needed to stand up to go to the loo, I felt dizzy, it was so high. I remember grabbing onto a pillar to steady myself.
Felt the same at Manchester. High up, steep steps and no handrail.

There’s all sorts of reasons why he fell might not nessarily have been drunk etc. Epilepsy cardiac arrest. I’ve had people thinking my daughter was drunk even though she’s never drank alcohol.