How does this make Brits feel about Prince Harry?

[kmo0416]

Does it melt the hearts of the British when they recall Prince Harry's 'Mummy' letter at Diana's funeral?
Does this make them think twice about treating him and Meghan without more sympathy?

Harry and Meghan were all over the press etc then suddenly it was Kate and William. Does noone else find that odd?

I think they were hounded out so they went. I'd like to think fatger and son can mend their relationship before Cgarles dies, but they live under an antiquated royal picture so who knows?
William and Harry's rift will likely never mend. It's sad but they won't be the first family to part ways will they.

I personally like Harry. I don't know much about Meghan but her charity work prior to meeting Harry suggests she's sound. I hope their relationship can withstand everything that is thrown at them.

No. He was twelve years old when he lost his mother. My heart goes out to his twelve year old self and what he must have been through age

Now though, couldn't care less. He tried to make a career and cash in on slagging off his family and it didn't work.

He is a nobody. I'm not just saying that to be cruel. He is right now. What Princess Margaret was to the Queen. Now, though, if princess margarette's children walked past you in the street, you wouldn't know who they were. It was the queen and her descendents that mattered.

It'll be the same when William is king and when his children have had children. No one will know about all care about him or his children. They're already in obscurity.

I wasted a few hours of my life reading Spare and now I have very little sympathy for the man he’s become. Losing his mother at such a young age was obviously tragic but he’s behaved appalling towards the rest of his family in recent years. I just hope he’s happy with the choices he’s made.

I feel sorry for both of them to have lost their mum so young. It changes a lot of milestones.

I stopped reading Spare because he came across as quite mean to some
people. People who worked at his school and so on.

Despite that I find the vitriol aimed at him and his wife incredible. I think the people who start thread after thread after thread solely to throw scorn at his wife (and sometimes him) are sick. Their behaviour is not normal or sane. It troubles me that Mumsnet continually lets it stand.

Harry is someone I might think about when something newsworthy happens, but not really otherwise. I paid attention during Spare cos of all the funny memes and quotes, then again when he lost the security based court case and said he wished someone had told him that could happen. Didn't watch the wedding as royal weddings not my thing.

As a general rule, I've no great affection for the institution. Some of the members clearly manage their position within it much more successfully than others, which doesn't particularly surprise me. Harry seems to have made rather a balls of things.

His problem, I think, is that he's managed to piss off the traditionalists by slagging the firm off but not got anti/ambiavalent people on side because he's so obviously still attached to the trappings of it all. He's not against the worst of it, just wants to be closer to the top of the pecking order. I did respect his and Meghan's decision not to have a title for Archie, but that didn't stick.

“The Military” is not there to provide an occupation for aimless and disgruntled royals. There is much speculation about why Harry left the Army but he certainly wasn’t removed from it.

Diana hadn’t seen her sons for at least a month before she died. I found that really sad. She was busy with her boyfriend Dodi. They were not at school either.

Harry is an adult, but I don't think he's had the opportunity to receive the support he clearly needs to cope with the death of his mother and the very public events that followed. Helping someone recover needs challenge as well as sympathy. I get the impression he's had expensive but not 'good' therapy.

So on this basis, I cut Harry a lot of slack, and I would welcome him and his kids back to the UK to live.

I do not think Megan has or is good for him. Remember that Harry had a good relationship with his family - just look at the photos - right up until he met Megan. Something about their relationship now feels very wrong to me - I'm not sure what, I can't put my finger on it, but it doesn't sit well with me.

Someone up thread opined that we ‘do not live in feudal times’
Wrong.

There are a number of monarchial feudal remnants clinging like bind weed to our society and they need rooted out if we are ever to become a full democracy

Too many to list but for example ;
-William has closed the books on the finances re the state owned Duchy upon which he currently squats and from which he pockets millions annually His father at least allowed some small degree of transparency.

-Elected representatives must swear allegiance to Charles - not the people, not even to the idea of the state but to Charles himself . A labour MP refused and was told he could not continue his work as an mp if he did not swear allegiance . So much for the electorate.That’s feudal .

-The Windsors pick and choose which laws they will accept and which they won’t . That’s feudal (They sought to be excluded from race discrimination laws - no surprise there )

Read ‘and what do you do by Norman Baker ‘ for many many more examples

Harry left and makes his own money and therefore must be destroyed via the media lest the little people finally wake up and ask why the rest of the Windsors can’t make their own money instead of taking half a billion from tax payers annually
I mean - it’s not as if William doesn’t have time to work- he’s on his what ? 6th or 7th holiday and has made it quite clear he intends to do next to nothing .

they didnt have a normal relationship with either of their parents.

No. It was nearly 30 years ago. Was very sad at the time of course, and he was very young to lose his mum in such tragic circumstances, but so was William, and he hasn't turned out like Harry has he?!

Not at all. I always thought William was lucky, given all that, to have met a life partner with a solid family unit behind her at such a young age himself.

I have sympathy for the twelve year old boy, I don’t give a monkeys about the forty year old man.

Hmm yeah this. ^ I think this new generation of Royals - born in the 21st century - are the first to have more 'normal' relationships with their parents. I love seeing William and Kate with their 3 children. William with Charlotte at the fooball was so endearing to see, and breaking through the stereotypes of 'only boys like football.' Kate seems to be very close to Charlotte too. And they both seem so close to Louis and George as well.

I feel sorry for him. He was born into this and while he has immense fortune, he has also suffered an immense and unique trauma.
It is not as though he can pop into an online support group of people with similar experiences when he is feeling a bit low.

Sorry I know it shouldn’t have because it is absolutely true but this made me laugh. I could see a section in a future Shrek movie where the spare prince does just that.

I remember the mummy letter. I still feel sorry for the 12 year old Harry. That does not mean I still feel sorry for him now at 40+ I've long since separated the child Harry to the Harry he's become as a man.

Because if they were they would have adopted a more " European " style Monarchy. That would have meant being far more low key, giving the non heir kids some kind of normality and an expectation that they would make their own way in the world. The Queen should have done it before Harry married but certainly before Harry gave his kids the ridiculous titles when they live in America.

The ones who don't go in for the pomp as much always seem to be the happiest. Being a more minor royal who knows their place and doesn't get eaten up by resentment must be an art form in itself.

I think you can simultaneously feel sorry for any 13 year old who has lost their mum, and contempt for a 40 something man who is selfish and entitled.

No not really. My DH lost his mum young, so do a lot of people. It’s tragic but it doesn’t mean you can be excused of all unreasonable behaviour when you’re an adult in your 40s.
I do have some sympathy for him as I think he has a lot of emotional issues that haven’t been dealt with properly. But unfortunately Harry and Meghan come across as being two spoilt self centred brats. They could do with spending a few months living in a normal sized council house on minimum wage and then see how much they want to moan about how unfair things are.

How do we know the rest of them aren't like that?

@LidlAmaretto I’m totally sure they all are! I don’t know how you wouldn’t grow up to be an entitled arse, with all that money and deference. I’m sure Jeff Bezo’s kids, if he has any, which I can’t be bothered to check, are entitled arses as well.

Not really, no.

It is heartbreaking and sad his mother died when he was still young, but at least he wasn't subject to the upheaval of the financial and logistical struggles alongside grieving some families face in this position. He has grown up with so many social, educational, career and opportunity privileges he made the mistake as an adult believing were afforded to him for reasons other than the actual reason; simply the family he was born into. Not his talent, intelligence, self driven endeavours to improve society, any sort of hard graft- he is unremarkable in nearly every way. I am not a fan of any of the Royals, and just because he rejected and spoke against them (because he didnt get his own way), the only reason we know who this mediocre man is, is because he is part of this family.

Its a shame for him that given the chance to start a new life in the US with a gold plated global platform handed to him, he chose to revel in spitefulness, lies and revenge rather than enjoying his family and the 'freedom' he allegedly wanted.

Melting the hearts of the British? Whatever gave you that idea? 🙄

In answer to your question - I have no opinion on them either way other than knowing how hard it is to lose a parent when you are a child, and literally the only time I ever even think about them is when there's some daft thread on here.

I think one thing OP is missing is that a lot of the adult population are younger than Harry. He's on the cusp of middle age. So even people who view him with sympathy because of his loss may also see him through the prism of someone who's older than them, should be more mature.