How does this make Brits feel about Prince Harry?

[kmo0416]

Does it melt the hearts of the British when they recall Prince Harry's 'Mummy' letter at Diana's funeral?
Does this make them think twice about treating him and Meghan without more sympathy?

People feel sympathy towards a child who loses a parent at a young age.

That will be completely disconnected to how they feel about the same child as an adult, and their feelings on that individuals actions as an adult.

I don't "hate" H&M. But don't exactly like them.

Harry is a grown man, it is tragic his mother died it really is, however he is just a pompous spoiled entitled man now,so no I don't really have any feelings about what he said at her funeral.

I don’t think about him at all normally

I remember it, but I don't think about Harry or any of the Royals unless someone mentions them. They don't matter to me in the slightest.

Isn't his name Henry?

I had the images of a wee boy stuck in my head for a very long time but what he has done changed that and made me start thinking of him as Harry the adult.

If I ever think about Prince Harry it’s in the same way as I think about the Duke of Windsor.

And perhaps daydreaming on how if geopolitics takes more funny turns in future he could be a useful pawn to some authoritarian leader who needs a puppet monarch for Britain - as we’ve seen disgruntled / exiled / rebel royals used in similar ways over the last thousand years!

Actually if a decent novelist wrote such a story I’d probably read it.

Oh and sympathy - well I’m sorry he lost his Mum so publicly and so tragically and was dragged into being a face of a defining national event as a child, and I guess he was badly parented and raised to turn out the way he has. A different childhood could have produced a different man. He should have stayed in the army, too.

By your op to ‘Brits’ I presume you’re not British in which you case you probably don’t understand the relationship this country has with the royals. They are there by our consent. We pay for them and moan about them. That’s the deal.

If they start to think that they’re above the little people or that they are some way entitled to a life of glitz and titles but without the drudge of public duty then they’ll get their arse handed to them.

We don’t live in feudal times. We are a modern democracy and therefore the monarchy has to wear the silly crowns, parade the gold carriages wave and nod, hang out with the Trumps and the Machrons, present their babies and dutifully do the walkabouts. That’s the deal.

And Meghan came in and looked around and decided that ‘service is universal’ and she could wfh in California.

Harry being a massive thicky mcthick goes along with Meghan’s worldview that being a part time princess/ part time movie actress is about wearing sparkles and living in a Disney palace picking flowers every day. It certainly isn’t curtsying to old randoms, trotting around dreary hospital wards and living in drafty digs on the Windsor tourist trail. No siree. But we’ll keep the titles thanks. And go in a massive sulk because it’s “soooo unfaiiirrr” not be still be given millions by the British taxpayers.

And no one ever asks how she is. 😢

So to answer your question op. No. I couldn’t give a flying fuck about Harry. He’s a massively wealthy dipstick who has betrayed his heritage, and his family, for the sake of a narcisstic opportunist. To quote an old British saying - he’s made his bed, he now needs to lie in it.

See, I do think its an almighty coincidence that he left the RF to be with Meghan and suddenly he's awful. A bit like Andrew. He's disgraced anyway and suddenly he's awful and always has been. How do we know the rest of them aren't like that? Everything he has said and done has been him, yet his wife is villified. I'm not sure why. I watched her cringey show because I work from home and it was my lunch hour guilty pleasure. It was harmless. Why the hate? His autobiography was boring but was all him. He was the one who told Meghan and Oprah that his family were racist, he is the one taking his father to court, but poor ickle Harry lost his mother and has accidentally fallen into the clutches of an evil American who is trying to destroy the RF with her jam... or something. Really, if the RF can't produce decent people when literally all they have to do is be born, use their almost unlimited wealth to fund endless psychotherapy, smile and wave, then should they be there?

But why not letting Harry continue with the military, he clearly thrived there

This is something I’ve wondered about. But someone military made a comment in here on a previous thread about there being exams to move up to the next level/rank in the army which he pretty clearly wouldn’t have passed. So - on that basis- he’d always have been at a point where he’d be expected to be on the front line. But his being on the front line as such a high profile target would be a nightmare as it presumably adds a whole extra level of complexity and risk into these operations (everyone wants to take him prisoner to parade him as a hostage, or whatever?). And, in turn, that puts any of the people working directly with him at greater risk. So I don’t think it was a feasible option unless they’d found him some sort of desk job (which I doubt he’d be up for). There was a line in “Spare” along the lines of “when I got back from Afghanistan, I met up with the Chief of Defence Staff to talk about my future” (like everything else in the book, just said casually as if that was normal for everyone…..!). But I suspect that was a “you can’t move up, so it has to be out” type of chat.

This ^

The military could have invented a non front line job perhaps working on recruitment -
spending time at the army foundation collages; PR and public engagement. Like Invictus but for Army career and new recuits. He could have spent a career doing this along with regular ribbon cutting and special occasion duties.

I’m sure the government would have welcomed it especially given the need now to invest more in Defence.

Absolutely this and I feel the same way about the other family members too. They are an incredibly dysfunctional family who try their best to do the job they have been given which I do admire them for. PH is best off out of it and needs to get on with his own life now. The media is utterly toxic around the entire family.

No. I don’t know the contents of the “Mummy” letter but even if I did, it would not change how I feel about him as an adult.

I wish people would stop harking back to the Diana funeral, the walk behind the coffin, the poor little boy who lost his mum. Those days are long gone, and he has had years of therapy to process those events.

What we see now is the result of a disastrous marriage to a greedy and narcissistic woman. I wish him no harm but I think he is beyond help or redemption and I’ve no interest in him or what he does from now on.

l’m not bothered about what Harry & Megan do - I am slightly weirded out when I encounter people who are.

I suspect all of them are so desperate to cling onto the Monarchy that they willingly subject themselves to all of this because, if push came to shove, they would be yet another Aristo family with a big house that they cant afford to heat. If they really wanted to, they could follow the European Royals and only have the monarch and heir doing Royalling. The Spanish Royals only have the first born as Princess. I think the other Royals have done the same thing. The Windsors, if they wanted to could do the same. They aren't, despite Harry having gone making it far easier to just limit the 'working' family to just a few. They don't want to. They are already parading the kids around in their defined roles (shy, reluctant King to be, feisty confident daughter, cheeky second son). They will only change that if the alternative was none of them having anything.

Firstly I appreciate this was not called H&M something rather another. I always click on those threads wondering what the news is with the clothing store. 😂

Nothing changed. I’m not fond of the royal family, I acknowledge Harry and Megan are always keen for a publicity stunt, wanting good media attention, oh poor them but actually bought it on themselves etc… nothing too controversial, no strong feelings, just what everyone knows about them. I don’t think they have many Brits who fall for it. Perhaps more controversial I think they’re the start of the end of the royal family.
I think most if not all Brits already knew his mum died. Many even have theories about how - almost everyone has something to say on their thoughts about what happened. It’s not news really, and it was a long time ago.
Sad for any child to loose their mum yes, I think most of us know that children in much less privileged positions loose a parent and don’t behave like him. I have more sympathy for my friends children who lost their father, live in an overcrowded council flat and struggle to make ends meet. I’d have more sympathy for them making similar bad choices than Harry. 🤷‍♀️

No.
One can sympathise with the child Harry, but he needs to take responsibility for his behaviour as an adult.
And don't forget that another little boy also had to cope with the death of his mother, and the public reaction! So we should feel equally sympathetic for the young William, whilst being relieved that he hasn't used his bereavement as an excuse for manipulation and other poor behaviours.

To be honest, we have no idea how the other one behaved/behaves.

We don’t know how the other one behaves…..

Oops, sorry. Didn’t mean to reply to two separate posts…

What makes you think they’re ‘desperate to cling on’?

If anything, all the evidence suggests that they’d heave a sigh of relief to be put out of their misery.

Of course not 🙄

Sympathy for any child losing their mother. But not for Harry the man. He's not exactly kind to his remaining parent. Meghan and Harry don't really do Dads.