Labour isn't working - Thread 5

[TheNuthatch]

A chat thread for those who don't like this Labour government. Labour isn't working!

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

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Thanks for the welcomes everyone; nice to feel I won't be eaten alive on here. 😂

Thank you. I hope so.

I'm really sorry to hear that. I hope they both find something. DH and I run a small firm so I know how difficult it is at the moment.

The Unite union are calling for higher wages in response to inflation figures.

Obviously 🙄

'Cause that'll help!

Meanwhile in the private sector, wages are further depressed because of the NI / NMW increases and loads of people will be lucky to get even a below-inflation pay rise.

I doubt many sectors will avoid redundancies. Our retail clients have been cutting back a fair bit. I expect the construction ones to do so as well.

there are too many not very bright people

This. 💯. There are brighter people in the white house at the moment. Terrifying.

ps. Not very bright and exceedingly bitter. A terrible combination.

Yes DH said last night that he is getting worried that he feels Trump is the only one making sense at the moment!

There’s a lot of construction work in the ME, if he wanted to top up his pension before retirement.

Yeah my firm has laid off people, is going to lay off more before year end or early next I expect and they settled on less than 2 percent pay rises this year…

Anyone know the latest on medics’ strikes? As far as I understood it the doctors have more strike dates to come and nurses had voted to strike. Is that right?

If they’re out together that would make a bloody gloomy autumn, what with the ‘no more tax rises’ budget 🙄 and all.

Don't forget potential teacher strikes too

Wonder if Reeves regrets giving doctors & teachers inflation busting pay rises now when they are just coming back for more.

Why is it so bad? Genuine question - I thought Labour were trying to massively ramp up house-building, and that availability of construction workers was the main blocker?

Hi @strawberrybubblegum not sure I’m getting you, busy morning - I don’t work in construction although we do have construction customers.

Sorry @arrearing50 , @D23456789 mentioned construction work and I thought you meant the same.

I wasn’t fantastically clear!

There are a few different things going on rn. Obviously labour costs thanks to the budget, capital spending not filtering through, rising cost of materials, new builds not selling, less commercial contracts. I don't work in housing but figures show low numbers built in the last year.
Purely anecdotal, but a lack of available construction workers is not what I'm seeing day to day.

Hello! Please may I join? This looks like a thread of sanity on an otherwise slightly unhinged forum.

Hi 👋
Welcome aboard!

Thanks!

Anyone hear the latest rest is money about the debt spiral? Peston and Steph MCGovern saying that economic growth now so critical a problem that we needed a group sitting on top of all govt policy reviewing it for effects on growth and a group fk peoooe who’d grown their businesses the most recently to come up with policy.

now that’s a good idea - there are good ideas out there but labour never seem to listen.

it’s funny, I feel as though Truss and Kwarteng was along the right lines but they didn’t read the room. We really need a bigger idea than just taking more money out of people’s pockets endlessly.

Ps Steph McG has been a continual non fan of labour as a business owner, she’s the reason I listen as Peston can sometimes be a bit ‘all well run businesses should be able to weather this and that’

Yes I listened to something a while ago on R4 saying Truss was actually right but it was presented appallingly. I wish I had paid more attention at the time, it was just before/during the election....

Yes I listened to something a while ago on R4 saying Truss was actually right but it was presented appallingly. I wish I had paid more attention at the time, it was just before/during the election....