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Dd ruined graduation

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DrudgeyPants · 24/07/2025 10:01

I didn’t put this in aibu because I’m feeling too miserable to get a bashing, but perhaps I am bu.

Dd’s graduation yesterday. It was 3 hours away so we stayed in a nice hotel for a treat. On the morning dd received a job rejection, and that was it. She descended into a foul mood.

The day was an abject failure. After the ceremony dd snapped that she was off to return her gown. “But the photos….” we said weakly and dd replied sarcastically that there would be no photos.

Everyone else was being jolly but not us. We stood around for a bit, me feeling like an idiot trussed up in a new dress. Dh and I were hissing at each other not to lose it as we were both feeling a bit teary. We were supposed to be going out for a nice meal, but dd said she wasn’t bothered so we drove home. And that was it.

Today dh has gone into work; I had taken another day off but I’m just doing the washing and cleaning. Dd has gone out.

I wasn’t building this graduation up (I have been to others!) but for dd to spoil it so thoroughly for both her and us mugs has left me feeling very down.

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RainSoakedNights · 24/07/2025 15:32

Calliopespa · 24/07/2025 15:31

I don't see that as quite the same thing at all.

If it was also your wedding day and your groom and family had made an effort to celebrate it and you still sat at your desk and ugly cried, that's quite different.

My days. A graduation is not the same as a wedding.

Shenmen · 24/07/2025 15:32

BodenCardiganNot · 24/07/2025 10:06

Graduations involve a lot of standing and sitting around, they're incredibly boring anyway, so you didn't miss much by not seeing your daughter get her photo taken.
They are not in the least bit boring.

Oh they are. Standing. Clapping. Boring speeches. I remember being a bit fun at the meal with several friends and their families the actual ceremony was dull as dishwasher. We even had Richard Attenborough as our chancellor which did make it slightly more interesting.

cardibach · 24/07/2025 15:32

RainSoakedNights · 24/07/2025 15:21

Leaving university is absolutely unsettling.

Leaving behind friends whom you may not see again. Leaving the city you have made home for three years. Leaving the stability of academia for the “grown up” world. Leaving the comfort of studying for the world of work - when the job market is a mess. Add in the happiness, pressure from others to perform and a job rejection, it’s no surprise she wasn’t on top form.

And yet thousands of young people every year thoroughly enjoy their graduation day despite this.

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 24/07/2025 15:32

We aren’t all Mr Spock. Some of us can’t control emotions - especially when younger. OP should have supported her daughter, not gritted her teeth and had a “show must go on” attitude.

whitewineandsun · 24/07/2025 15:33

What if she stumbled across this thread and found her mother supporting hundreds of strangers in a character assassination, while having no right of reply?

I did wonder upthread if these reactions from strangers made the OP feel better. But in following updates, she has said not very supportive things about her daughter's resilience (who raised her?), so now I do actually think that she wanted strangers to tell her that the daughter is an ungrateful brat, who should have smiled for photos and put on a happy face.

cardibach · 24/07/2025 15:33

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 24/07/2025 15:22

Huh, and yet DD is being shred to pieces by her own mother for not smiling. If you punish someone for failing to smile, that is a way to tell someone to smile.

If that’s what you are taking from it I’m not sure you really grasp what’s going on. No real point in discussing it. After all you think grad photos are about feminine beauty, despite all the men who get them.

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 24/07/2025 15:34

cardibach · 24/07/2025 15:32

And yet thousands of young people every year thoroughly enjoy their graduation day despite this.

And thousands do not. I am sure there is a correlation between enjoyment and job offers…

Calliopespa · 24/07/2025 15:34

RainSoakedNights · 24/07/2025 15:32

My days. A graduation is not the same as a wedding.

Alright then: if its was also a graduation and others had come to celebrate. It doesn't really matter what the occasion is. It's the inability not to let one disappointment ruin everything that is problematic.

EarringsandLipstick · 24/07/2025 15:34

RikkeOfTheLongEye · 24/07/2025 15:28

I am really torn on this topic.
On the one hand, it is sad that the day was ruined. I feel sorry for you and I do think your DD should ideally have made some effort to at least do the minimum expected of her in this situation, even if she was feeling down. I'm conscious that I did something similar to my own parents on my graduation day (I wasn't grumpy but I did ruin the day by getting so drunk the night before that I spent my graduation looking crumpled and very obviously hungover, and ended up being sick when they tried to take me for a lovely meal). I have always felt really ashamed of myself for that and regretted the lost chance to give my parents a happy day - especially as I went on to lose my mum a few years later and she never got to see me graduate from the qualifications I did later in life. We never know how many special days we will have with the people we love.

On the other hand... as someone crap at emotional regulation (despite now being far from a spring chicken), I know I would find it very hard to even put on a brief cheerful act in your DD's shoes. I also find that any occasion where there is pressure to act a certain way and be on display can become a bit of a nightmare. 30-something-year-old me can handle these things but early-20-something me could not. So I do relate to your DD's position too. Generally I reckon we put too much store in big days and photo opportunities in life, but that's maybe just my cynical take and I still appreciate how crap and disappointing this must all have been for you and your DH.

Oh, and I agree with those who've pointed out that this is a really unsettling time of life generally and often a time when young people feel at their most insecure and rubbish. A lot of those picture perfect smiling graduation photos are LIES!

Ps, for those critical of your DD's lack of emotional resilience re the job, I have cried my eyes out after every job interview i've ever had (always convincing myself I wouldn't get it, even though I usually have), and probably always will. And my graduation drinking was fuelled by heartache. So I'm flying the flag for big messy emotions as part of life, not something we can just airbrush out... even though ideally the tears would be private and a sensible balance could be struck to at least get through the graduation photos!

Edited

this is a very moving post.

About your own situation, I am sure your parents were both happy and proud at your achievement, and one less-than-perfect day, even an important graduation day, isn't going to change that.

I totally get how you feel, as I feel similar. I also still find 'being happy' on the Big Days hard - just manage it better - I am so much better at low-key, spur of the moment type gatherings. Ironically, I now have a DC who is really poor at emotional regulation and unfortunately has ruined several birthdays / Christmas Days with bad behaviour. I do feel upset at these days, and have got angry with him. But ultimately, all I want is him to be able to be happy in himself as he grows up, and I am fairly sure I will accept the mistakes along the way, even though they might have hurt at the time and been hard to take.

justasking111 · 24/07/2025 15:35

DrudgeyPants · 24/07/2025 15:02

@Calliopespa I will try all this, but definitely let the dust settle. She is used to things going right. I’m dreading it if she’s ever dumped!

Well your daughter was an immature stroppy cow. My eldest applied for so many jobs, didn't even get a response to many. It's tough for employers when they get the annual avalanche of job applications we told him. He didn't sulk once.

You should have gone for the meal though.

I'm guessing she'll be coming home unemployed. Lay down some rules now.

whitewineandsun · 24/07/2025 15:35

Cucy · 24/07/2025 15:26

MN is funny sometimes.

Every year there are multiple threads from grown adults throwing their toys out of the pram because they didn’t get a valentines or Mother’s Day card.

But yet DD is being called a spoilt brat for spoiling her parents day because she didn’t plaster a huge grin on her face and didn’t want to go out for a meal on the day of HER own graduation.

This is a good point.

cardibach · 24/07/2025 15:35

RainSoakedNights · 24/07/2025 15:25

Young people aren’t to feel emotions though! We must take everything perfectly in our stride and never once panic!

This particular young person does have somewhere to go though. To the supportive parents to whom she’s just been so rude.

RainSoakedNights · 24/07/2025 15:35

Calliopespa · 24/07/2025 15:34

Alright then: if its was also a graduation and others had come to celebrate. It doesn't really matter what the occasion is. It's the inability not to let one disappointment ruin everything that is problematic.

But why oh why should she push her emotions aside to make others happy? Why couldn’t her parents step up, be parents and comfort her?

Calliopespa · 24/07/2025 15:36

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 24/07/2025 15:34

And thousands do not. I am sure there is a correlation between enjoyment and job offers…

Yup. And also a bit of correlation with an ability not to collapse entirely over one aspect not going to plan.

RainSoakedNights · 24/07/2025 15:36

whitewineandsun · 24/07/2025 15:33

What if she stumbled across this thread and found her mother supporting hundreds of strangers in a character assassination, while having no right of reply?

I did wonder upthread if these reactions from strangers made the OP feel better. But in following updates, she has said not very supportive things about her daughter's resilience (who raised her?), so now I do actually think that she wanted strangers to tell her that the daughter is an ungrateful brat, who should have smiled for photos and put on a happy face.

quite.

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 24/07/2025 15:37

cardibach · 24/07/2025 15:33

If that’s what you are taking from it I’m not sure you really grasp what’s going on. No real point in discussing it. After all you think grad photos are about feminine beauty, despite all the men who get them.

Right, so when you punish your child does that or does that not tell them what not to do?

It’s not the grad photos that are about feminine beauty…not sure how you got that impression.

RainSoakedNights · 24/07/2025 15:37

Calliopespa · 24/07/2025 15:36

Yup. And also a bit of correlation with an ability not to collapse entirely over one aspect not going to plan.

Funny, because you don’t know how her daughter has taken it in her stride since then.

Zanatdy · 24/07/2025 15:37

It was my son’s graduation yesterday too. I’d have been very upset if he refused any photos. My son’s father would have told him in no uncertain terms he would be smiling for the photo given the amount of money its cost.

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cardibach · 24/07/2025 15:37

Cucy · 24/07/2025 15:26

MN is funny sometimes.

Every year there are multiple threads from grown adults throwing their toys out of the pram because they didn’t get a valentines or Mother’s Day card.

But yet DD is being called a spoilt brat for spoiling her parents day because she didn’t plaster a huge grin on her face and didn’t want to go out for a meal on the day of HER own graduation.

I don’t think anyone has asked for a huge grin. Just a lack of rudeness and a willingness to go ahead with plans she made herself.

DrudgeyPants · 24/07/2025 15:37

@EarringsandLipstick thank you for your kind words. It’s rather bizarre reading some replies in which posters have totally made things up. I’m now supposed to have ranted at dd for not smiling, or telling her to smile - I’m confused myself now!

Dd was just in a black mood. Unfortunately one descended on this day. Grumpy/emotional/disappointed - I can understand and deal with all of them. Being on the receiving end of rudeness whilst dh and I were standing there like a couple of chumps, not so much. Dd had wanted all the bells and whistles - happy to oblige. Wanted to change her mind - fine. Attitude and “not bothered” comments, not great.

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RampantIvy · 24/07/2025 15:37

DrudgeyPants · 24/07/2025 12:56

I see some posters are determined to paint me as some sort of monster strutting about in my finery and hectoring dd to buck up, when all she wanted was a low-key acceptance of a meaningless certificate with possibly dh and I - an aged and out-of-touch couple of unempathetic boors - not even in attendance.

I don’t know how to answer really…

Ignore them. They are projecting. DD endured her graduation but didn't enjoy it as she hates being the centre of attention. It was her decision to go through with it though. If she had said she wasn't going to we would have accepted it.

If she doesn't want a graduation ceremeony when she achieves her masters that is up to her. We aren't going to insist that she has one.

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 24/07/2025 15:38

Calliopespa · 24/07/2025 15:36

Yup. And also a bit of correlation with an ability not to collapse entirely over one aspect not going to plan.

What ‘collapse’? Why do you think a young woman not smiling and not performing happy femininity for a public event considered to be in “collapse” ?

Calliopespa · 24/07/2025 15:38

RainSoakedNights · 24/07/2025 15:35

But why oh why should she push her emotions aside to make others happy? Why couldn’t her parents step up, be parents and comfort her?

You mean push aside their emotions?

In all honesty, as a parent that's what I'd have done. It sounds, though, as though op knows her dd well enough to know no amount of comfort would reach her - which is why people are saying there's a problem.

Comfort works because we have developed an openness to the idea that things going wrong isn't always the end of the world.

RainSoakedNights · 24/07/2025 15:38

RampantIvy · 24/07/2025 15:37

Ignore them. They are projecting. DD endured her graduation but didn't enjoy it as she hates being the centre of attention. It was her decision to go through with it though. If she had said she wasn't going to we would have accepted it.

If she doesn't want a graduation ceremeony when she achieves her masters that is up to her. We aren't going to insist that she has one.

What great emotional resilience 😂😂😂😂 OP doesn’t like some of the responses so she’s just to ignore them.