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Still dancing the Tariff Tango, Vlad and Bibi still playing him like a fiddle and Epstein's list must be written in invisible ink - Trump thread #146

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Spandauer · 13/07/2025 11:06

Awa' a bile yer heid, ya greet orange jobbie.

(Virtual Placard for his upcoming visit to Scotland - others welcome)

Previous thread:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5357151-trumplethinskin-wants-his-situation-room-photo-because-it-most-definitely-rained-on-his-parade-trump-thread-145

Trumplethinskin wants his Situation Room photo because it most definitely rained on his parade - Trump thread #145 | Mumsnet

All he’s done is lie since he came down that escalator. Previous thread: [[https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5344386-no-more-musk-melania-mia-and-t...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5357151-trumplethinskin-wants-his-situation-room-photo-because-it-most-definitely-rained-on-his-parade-trump-thread-145

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SerendipityJane · 24/07/2025 16:24

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 24/07/2025 16:23

Does anyone know what the hell this is about? Somehow it smacks of Trumpism to me, or am I deluded?
https://apnews.com/article/emmanuel-macron-brigitte-candace-owens-lawsuit-france-5bdfcc456e0e2b68af3e0e39d7c3062e

Dead cats don't wear plaid ?

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 24/07/2025 16:27

SerendipityJane · 24/07/2025 16:24

Dead cats don't wear plaid ?

Sorry, I don’t get your reference at all.
I’ve just realised it’s fake news, hence my thinking of Trump. Doh.

YankTank · 24/07/2025 16:37

Isn’t Maxwell going to tell the authorities that Trump had zero to do with the trafficking? Then she gets a pardon from the felon.

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 24/07/2025 16:39

@YankTank - but in that case, why doesn’t he want the Epstein files released now?

SerendipityJane · 24/07/2025 16:43

YankTank · 24/07/2025 16:37

Isn’t Maxwell going to tell the authorities that Trump had zero to do with the trafficking? Then she gets a pardon from the felon.

But if Trump is innocent then what is the word of a convicted felon ? After all we know they all stick together.

Until her name was mentioned, she had no agency. However in their sheer desperation, team Trump have now handed her the levers of a powerplay.

And she can always refuse to say a word, pleading the fifth. Which could make Trump seem even more guilty than before.

And whilst this is consuming the news cycle and allowing a lot of bad news to be slipped out, even that is a double edged sword. It's already clear that Trump is getting increasing frustrated that his LATE NIGHT POSTINGS aren't gaining traction against the tsunami of Epstein chatter.

SerendipityJane · 24/07/2025 16:48

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 24/07/2025 16:39

@YankTank - but in that case, why doesn’t he want the Epstein files released now?

That is the question MAGA are struggling with. It's basically their equivalent of papal infallibility. The very last part of their religion which makes them special.

Who remembers the end of "The Man Who Would Be King" ?

Serpentstooth · 24/07/2025 16:51

Are we going to be weighing Bigly words against Maxwell words? Hmm. Who ya gonna trust, Truthbusters?

SerendipityJane · 24/07/2025 17:00

Serpentstooth · 24/07/2025 16:51

Are we going to be weighing Bigly words against Maxwell words? Hmm. Who ya gonna trust, Truthbusters?

As I say, her words as a convicted felon carry much less weight than her words as an exonerated victim of the Democrats.

It's clear Trump is being goaded - almost surgically - towards a precipice of some sort. Just because it seems all is sweetness and light on his side of the aisle doesn't mean it is. There will be people there who aren't as happy in private as they are in public at the idea of a permaTrump US. It wouldn't suit their agendas. If we want an example, look at the last days of the Nazis.

I'm slightly surprised he feels confident enough to leave the US to go to Scotland.

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 24/07/2025 17:26

"I'm slightly surprised he feels confident enough to leave the US to go to Scotland."
Oh my goodness, @SerendipityJane, that somehow has Shakespearean shades of Julius Caesar all over it!

SerendipityJane · 24/07/2025 17:30

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 24/07/2025 17:26

"I'm slightly surprised he feels confident enough to leave the US to go to Scotland."
Oh my goodness, @SerendipityJane, that somehow has Shakespearean shades of Julius Caesar all over it!

This is how all tyrannies end. In such a miasma of paranoia that you can spin any event as somehow part of a wider conspiracy.

I meant hasn't Trump asked himself who is clearly out to get him ? And more importantly who in his circle must be helping them ? No one can be that stupid. And as we know (because he tells us) Trump isn't stupid.

CaveMum · 24/07/2025 17:31

SerendipityJane · 24/07/2025 16:43

But if Trump is innocent then what is the word of a convicted felon ? After all we know they all stick together.

Until her name was mentioned, she had no agency. However in their sheer desperation, team Trump have now handed her the levers of a powerplay.

And she can always refuse to say a word, pleading the fifth. Which could make Trump seem even more guilty than before.

And whilst this is consuming the news cycle and allowing a lot of bad news to be slipped out, even that is a double edged sword. It's already clear that Trump is getting increasing frustrated that his LATE NIGHT POSTINGS aren't gaining traction against the tsunami of Epstein chatter.

Michael Wolff was interviewed on TRIP Leading and said that when Trump is worried about stuff he can’t sleep. So whenever he is late night rage-posting you know he’s genuinely stressed.

DuncinToffee · 24/07/2025 17:31

One of his racist buddies has died, Hulk Hogan

https://bsky.app/profile/edgeofsports.bsky.social/post/3lupwp2fqak2z

Real discussion:
CNN: Hey Dave it's CNN. Could you come on to talk about the death of Hulk Hogan

Me: Hulk Hogan was a racist scab and a liar. He hated unions, Black people, and the truth and that's why he loved Donald Trump. What time do you want me?

CNN: Great! Well.... so we'll keep looking

SerendipityJane · 24/07/2025 17:32

DuncinToffee · 24/07/2025 17:31

One of his racist buddies has died, Hulk Hogan

https://bsky.app/profile/edgeofsports.bsky.social/post/3lupwp2fqak2z

Real discussion:
CNN: Hey Dave it's CNN. Could you come on to talk about the death of Hulk Hogan

Me: Hulk Hogan was a racist scab and a liar. He hated unions, Black people, and the truth and that's why he loved Donald Trump. What time do you want me?

CNN: Great! Well.... so we'll keep looking

Looks like Trump enemies are getting closer to him then.

SerendipityJane · 24/07/2025 17:33

CaveMum · 24/07/2025 17:31

Michael Wolff was interviewed on TRIP Leading and said that when Trump is worried about stuff he can’t sleep. So whenever he is late night rage-posting you know he’s genuinely stressed.

Hopefully he can obtain some pharmaceutical relief.

prettybird · 24/07/2025 17:37

A mutual acquaintance of dh and mine is currently working at Turnberry somewhere near Girvan on “security”. Apparently he might also be going up to Aberdeenshire.

He’s a nutcase, so heaven help anyone relying on him for security Grin And there is no fucking way anyone would ever give him a gun Wink

CaveMum · 24/07/2025 17:52

I do wonder how much of the current news cycle is Rupert Murdoch pulling the strings of the media to get his revenge on Trump. Allegedly he hates Trump, always has done - he wanted Ron De Santis to get the nomination in 2016.

Of course this raises the question of why does Murdoch hate Trump - is it because he can’t control him or just because he’s an odious being - maybe both!

Murdoch is another of the “cockroach” brigade and I am not a fan, but if he can use his power to severely damage Trump (I daren’t hope to bring him down) then maybe he’ll have done one good deed on this earth.

Spandauer · 24/07/2025 18:00

The Donald will soon be amongst us (U.K.) -tomorrow(Friday) until Monday. Starmer is is due to visit him at one of his bigly Scottish crofts to kiss the ring.

Sorry, Scottish MNers but I am praying for torrential rain and howling winds (and a plague of locusts would be nice)

Guess he'll be hoping no one here has heard about Mr Epstein...

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BestIsWest · 24/07/2025 18:03

Just listening to The News Agents and Emily Maitlis was speculating on rumours that JD Vance may be pulling some strings too. Apparently his defence of Trump was weak.

SerendipityJane · 24/07/2025 18:04

CaveMum · 24/07/2025 17:52

I do wonder how much of the current news cycle is Rupert Murdoch pulling the strings of the media to get his revenge on Trump. Allegedly he hates Trump, always has done - he wanted Ron De Santis to get the nomination in 2016.

Of course this raises the question of why does Murdoch hate Trump - is it because he can’t control him or just because he’s an odious being - maybe both!

Murdoch is another of the “cockroach” brigade and I am not a fan, but if he can use his power to severely damage Trump (I daren’t hope to bring him down) then maybe he’ll have done one good deed on this earth.

Rats fighting in a sack.

Also, the myth of Murdoch is hardly right. He's influential - because his media tells you so. However a lot of that is sly after the event reporting.

In any flavour of democracy, the actual swing between sides is in the gift of a tiny tiny few. In the UK probably less than 10,000. For all the noise in the media, most of our votes are useless - they achieve nothing.

Once upon a time, knowing who those 10,000 or so were would have been impossible. Then we invented social media with it's ability to slice and dice data until you can not only identify those 10,000 but just buy their votes for a few pieces of silver.

Serpentstooth · 24/07/2025 18:05

It really is a case of 'least worst', sifting through the detritus that makes up the current 'republican' billionaire frat boys and their poodles. Sickening. Horrified to find myself cheering on Murdoch. A pox on the lot of them, may they all receive what they richly deserve.

SerendipityJane · 24/07/2025 18:08

BestIsWest · 24/07/2025 18:03

Just listening to The News Agents and Emily Maitlis was speculating on rumours that JD Vance may be pulling some strings too. Apparently his defence of Trump was weak.

Well if he wants to succeed Trump he needs to distance himself. I am aware the constitution requires he become POTUS if 47 has to go. However it's no use becoming president and then running into what did for Trump by association.

At this stage of the game, rather than dismissing wild rumours, it serves the anti Trump cohort to actively encourage them. The more the merrier. Because some of them will definitely stoke the toxic brew of narcissism (it's all about me) and paranoia (they are out to get me) that Trump has managed to instil into his base by living and breathing them.

CaveMum · 24/07/2025 18:25

BestIsWest · 24/07/2025 18:03

Just listening to The News Agents and Emily Maitlis was speculating on rumours that JD Vance may be pulling some strings too. Apparently his defence of Trump was weak.

Yes Mooch and Katty hinted that Vance had met with some of Murdoch’s team recently. It will be spun as Vance fighting in Trump’s corner, but we already know that weasel will sell himself to the highest bidder.

Serpentstooth · 24/07/2025 18:25

Pray 🙏 no coup while he's over here and we're stuck with the bugger claiming political asylum. Move over Charles, you may have a permanent house guest.

DuncinToffee · 24/07/2025 18:27

When is Vance visiting the Cotswolds?

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 24/07/2025 18:35

DuncinToffee · 24/07/2025 18:27

When is Vance visiting the Cotswolds?

Next month, I think.

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