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Still dancing the Tariff Tango, Vlad and Bibi still playing him like a fiddle and Epstein's list must be written in invisible ink - Trump thread #146

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Spandauer · 13/07/2025 11:06

Awa' a bile yer heid, ya greet orange jobbie.

(Virtual Placard for his upcoming visit to Scotland - others welcome)

Previous thread:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5357151-trumplethinskin-wants-his-situation-room-photo-because-it-most-definitely-rained-on-his-parade-trump-thread-145

Trumplethinskin wants his Situation Room photo because it most definitely rained on his parade - Trump thread #145 | Mumsnet

All he’s done is lie since he came down that escalator. Previous thread: [[https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5344386-no-more-musk-melania-mia-and-t...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5357151-trumplethinskin-wants-his-situation-room-photo-because-it-most-definitely-rained-on-his-parade-trump-thread-145

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LlttledrummergirI · 23/07/2025 08:27

Lalgarh · 22/07/2025 22:15

Clinton is.knee deep in the Epstein stuff so that might explain his silence

I'm not so sure. The Clintons have been on MAGAs hit list since before Trumps first term, along with Bill Gates.
I think this might be more of the same old conspiracy (remember they eat babies, and worship the devil- bad bad bad people).

It was done make Trump appear to be the saviour, and most of it seems to have come from stuff Trump has done himself plus the worst recesses of a sick mind.

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 23/07/2025 10:23

Interesting article here, I thought:
https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2025/07/trump-weird-posts-truth-social-epstein/683627/?gift=e2u7q4bY0aDA8U4mEoqTWWrrc-Pgha4N0hytYqt8&utm_source=copy-link&utmmedium=social&utmcampaign=share
though I do find this remark by the author: "it all starts to feel more concerning” a tad understated.

Oh, hang on though, I’ve read further now Grin :
"In this context, Trump’s Truth Social page is little more than a rapid-response account that illustrates a world that doesn’t actually exist: one in which POTUS looks like a comic-book hero, is universally beloved, and exerts his executive authority to jail or silence anyone who disagrees with him. This sort of revenge fantasy would be sad coming from anyone. That it is coming from the president of the United States, a man obsessed with retribution, who presides over a government that is enthusiastically arresting and jailing immigrants in makeshift camps, is terrifying.”

The Desperation of Donald Trump’s Posts

Trump’s social-media habits are different when he can’t control the narrative.

https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2025/07/trump-weird-posts-truth-social-epstein/683627/?gift=e2u7q4bY0aDA8U4mEoqTWWrr--c-Pgha4N0hyt_Yqt8

SerendipityJane · 23/07/2025 10:40

Lalgarh · 22/07/2025 22:15

Clinton is.knee deep in the Epstein stuff so that might explain his silence

fans of the swords and sandals epic "The Bible" will remember that ultimately Samson brought the whole temple down destroying his enemies in an act of sacrifice.

Would make a great film.

BustingBaoBun · 23/07/2025 11:40

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 23/07/2025 10:23

Interesting article here, I thought:
https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2025/07/trump-weird-posts-truth-social-epstein/683627/?gift=e2u7q4bY0aDA8U4mEoqTWWrrc-Pgha4N0hytYqt8&utm_source=copy-link&utmmedium=social&utmcampaign=share
though I do find this remark by the author: "it all starts to feel more concerning” a tad understated.

Oh, hang on though, I’ve read further now Grin :
"In this context, Trump’s Truth Social page is little more than a rapid-response account that illustrates a world that doesn’t actually exist: one in which POTUS looks like a comic-book hero, is universally beloved, and exerts his executive authority to jail or silence anyone who disagrees with him. This sort of revenge fantasy would be sad coming from anyone. That it is coming from the president of the United States, a man obsessed with retribution, who presides over a government that is enthusiastically arresting and jailing immigrants in makeshift camps, is terrifying.”

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Interesting article. He really is a sandwich short of a picnic isn't he...

This bit stood out for me

Talking about Trump and social media is complicated because, unlike most users, Trump can post ridiculous things, transform news cycles, and force the world to react to his posts. But lately, his posts are not having the desired effect. It’s possible that what observers witnessed this weekend is a tipping point of sorts. Trump’s posts, instead of influencing reality, suggest that the president is retreating from it entirely

I think he is slowly losing his grip on his MAGAts. And he knows it. Which is a good thing because he will get more and more angry, petulant, vengeful. He has already started calling them names.

DuncinToffee · 23/07/2025 12:12

The EU will merge two packages of retaliation measures against U.S. tariffs into a single one that will be ready to use if trade negotiations with the Trump administration go sour, a European Commission spokesperson said today.

https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-readies-one-shot-us-trade-retaliation-package-totaling-e93b/

SerendipityJane · 23/07/2025 12:20

DuncinToffee · 23/07/2025 12:12

The EU will merge two packages of retaliation measures against U.S. tariffs into a single one that will be ready to use if trade negotiations with the Trump administration go sour, a European Commission spokesperson said today.

https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-readies-one-shot-us-trade-retaliation-package-totaling-e93b/

Belle did a video months ago highlighting a lot of changes the EU had made to the way it could control tariffs after Trump #1.0. The summary was it allowed them to be very flexible across a whole range of sectors down to individual companies, if needed.

DuncinToffee · 23/07/2025 17:21

Macron sues far right extremist Candace Owens for claiming his wife was born a man https://www.mediaite.com/media/news/breaking-french-president-macron-files-lawsuit-against-candace-owens-for-repeatedly-claiming-his-wife-is-a-man/

(Candace Owens' husband is a director of the parent company of... GB News.)

pointythings · 23/07/2025 19:20

DuncinToffee · 23/07/2025 17:21

Macron sues far right extremist Candace Owens for claiming his wife was born a man https://www.mediaite.com/media/news/breaking-french-president-macron-files-lawsuit-against-candace-owens-for-repeatedly-claiming-his-wife-is-a-man/

(Candace Owens' husband is a director of the parent company of... GB News.)

I hope it costs her millions.

DuncinToffee · 23/07/2025 19:34

Leavitt and Gabbard are seriously losing it, the document must be very bad for 🍊

And Epstein's lawyer, Roy Black who helped negotiate his legal impunity died on Monday

Talkinpeace · 23/07/2025 19:35

Clinton was on the flights - his marriage was always odd
Gates was on the flights - his marriage ended
Many many other people were on the flights
but Ghislaine was convicted of recruiting girls from the staff of Mar a Lago
it was another level

DuncinToffee · 23/07/2025 20:43

Exclusive: The Justice Department told President Trump in May that his name is among many in the Epstein files.

https://www.wsj.com/politics/justice-department-told-trump-name-in-epstein-files-727a8038?st=dUands&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 23/07/2025 20:46

DuncinToffee · 23/07/2025 20:43

Exclusive: The Justice Department told President Trump in May that his name is among many in the Epstein files.

https://www.wsj.com/politics/justice-department-told-trump-name-in-epstein-files-727a8038?st=dUands&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

I’m sorry, I’m not keeping up at the back here, @DuncinToffee - was that when Trump started getting really agitated about the release of those files, or is it more recent?

DuncinToffee · 23/07/2025 20:58

The briefing was earlier this year, I assume it was before he started to get agitated.

I think it was then that he decided not to release the files despite his campaign promise

Difficult to keep up,

ETA, it was in May

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 23/07/2025 21:07

Thanks, @DuncinToffee - he’s not an easy man to read, in many ways, and yet so simply obvious in others.

MsJinks · 23/07/2025 22:36

I’m sure he knew he’d be in the files - did he really think Epstein was a mate who’d leave just his name out? Maybe I guess as he’s so full of his Orange self.
I’m also sure he thought he’d bluff any small mention out - everyone knew he hung out with him and no one seems to mind that - or his disgusting comments about girls/his daughter over the years - baffling but appears to be so.
Guess it’s worse than imagined - or as I said previously some other bigwigs decided for him.
He seems quite irritated it doesn’t just go away at the snap of his fingers - he is so incredibly entitled and deluded I wonder what is in his small brain.
But then again in a lot of ways it’s worse, or maybe just weird, that everyone just goes along and thinks he’s great - that is the bigger mystery I can never resolve in my brain.

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 24/07/2025 06:03

You’re not the only one, @MsJinks.

I’ve been seeing a meme (if that’s what it’s called?) recently which quotes a speech Meryl Streep made at the Golden Globes in 2017. Part of what she said:

"An actor’s only job is to enter the lives of people and let you feel what that feels like … there was one performance this year that stunned me, it sank its hooks in my heart. It was that moment when the person asking to sit in the most respected seat in our country imitated a disabled reporter — someone he outranked in privilege, power and the capacity to fight back.

It kind of broke my heart when I saw it.”

Streep continued by saying: “This instinct to humiliate, when it’s modeled by someone in the public platform, by someone powerful, it filters down into everybody’s life, because it kind of gives permission for other people to do the same thing. Disrespect invites disrespect. Violence invites violence. And when the powerful use their position to bully others, we all lose.”

(Quotes taken from here: https://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/meryl-streep-calls-out-trump-at-golden-globes-233339)

His jeering at a disabled journalist and not being called out for it by the Republicans was when I realised that we were doomed and going to hell in a handcart. I still can’t get over that. (Nor a lot else, obviously, but that was so callous, and so telling about the man and his supporters.) The other thing I’ve been pondering about this morning (as a bit of a distraction from the forest fires which are currently raging in Cyprus, sadly leaving people dead, and destroying some of the most beautiful mountain wine producing villages: https://www.reuters.com/business/environment/two-dead-homes-burn-massive-cyprus-wildfire-2025-07-24/ if you’re interested), is his horrible inherent racism. He is clearly a vile human being, but he also clearly represents the thinking of many voting Americans, which is even more disturbing. I think what I and presumably many others, saw as a bee in his bonnet and a twisted way to try to discredit his predecessor, his insistence that President Obama was not an American by birth, actually revealed his true feelings about any non-whites who were more successful than him by dint of their own hard work, as opposed to the luck of birth that his inheritance from his father gave him, and presaged ICE.
Sorry, I’m rambling.
And then, there’s this: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/jfk-grandson-rips-move-to-name-kennedy-center-theater-after-melania-trump/ar-AA1J9LSp
(Apologies if I’ve missed mention of it earlier in the thread.)

Please excuse my rant. When I was a bra-burning student in the Seventies, I never imagined that things would have regressed to this extent by the time I was 70. Bugger it.

MSN

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/jfk-grandson-rips-move-to-name-kennedy-center-theater-after-melania-trump/ar-AA1J9LSp

Evenstar · 24/07/2025 08:36

@Jaichangecentfoisdenom that quote from Meryl Streep is thought provoking and moving and could very well apply to Trump wannabes in the U.K. 😔

Spandauer · 24/07/2025 08:53

@Jaichangecentfoisdenom I agree with everything you say. The performative cruelty and the idea that it's not enough to "win" but your 'opponent' has to visibly suffer is just sickening. Trump has encouraged this mindset to permeate through everything and everyone in his administration and beyond.

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DuncinToffee · 24/07/2025 09:24

For fans of South Park

The US satire cartoon show South Park secured a five-year deal worth $1.5 billion with Paramount Global. They began their season with this clip, challenging Trump to sue them.

https://bsky.app/profile/youranoncentral.bsky.social/post/3lup2wusgkv2z

SerendipityJane · 24/07/2025 09:45

Anyone else wryly amused that it seems no one is interested in "Obama treason" because he would have immunity from prosecution thanks to the SCOTUS ruling ?

Serpentstooth · 24/07/2025 09:52

No excuse required j'ai change, perfectly understandable that you - and I, with many others - feel we've slipped into a previously unimaginable dystopia that properly belongs to the realm of comics featuring an Evil Villain who wants to Own The World. I wouldn't have believed it possible but here we are. I read the other day that views such as ours show we are 'prisoners of the past with outdated, discredited political beliefs". 👋 forlornly to those once commonly shared standards we were brought up with.

BustingBaoBun · 24/07/2025 09:57

Talkinpeace · 23/07/2025 19:35

Clinton was on the flights - his marriage was always odd
Gates was on the flights - his marriage ended
Many many other people were on the flights
but Ghislaine was convicted of recruiting girls from the staff of Mar a Lago
it was another level

But Maxwell didn't just recruit girls from MarALago staff. She trawled shopping malls, trailer parks, anywhere there were young vulnerable girls. They were promised modelling careers, money, education, travel. There was an endless stream of adolescent girls that Jeffrey wanted and Maxwell procured.

Yes, she has been made a scapegoat for all the other sleazy man availing themselves of this, but she was the one doing the procuring.

SerendipityJane · 24/07/2025 10:04

BustingBaoBun · 24/07/2025 09:57

But Maxwell didn't just recruit girls from MarALago staff. She trawled shopping malls, trailer parks, anywhere there were young vulnerable girls. They were promised modelling careers, money, education, travel. There was an endless stream of adolescent girls that Jeffrey wanted and Maxwell procured.

Yes, she has been made a scapegoat for all the other sleazy man availing themselves of this, but she was the one doing the procuring.

I find it hard to believe this was confined to the US, given the connections and origins of Maxwell ....

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