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Upsetting comment from manager

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ByGreyTiger · 04/07/2025 22:48

My line manager said something to me last week that really upset me. For context, I get on with her well. We have a laugh together in meetings, I can tell she trusts me and often asks my advice on things. DH works for the same company, but he is more senior than me and our paths rarely cross at work. He does however have a bit more to do with my line manager. He’s always found her a bit tricky and sometimes gets upset by emails she’s sent him and finds them passive aggressive. To be honest when I read them I’ve thought he was imagining it a bit, and told him that.
anyway - last week has regular meeting with line manager and we were talking about a promotion I’ve just received. She then looked at me quite seriously and said ‘can I say something to you, and I’m worried it’s going to sound really horrible’. Well of course I wanted to know what it was and she said ‘I’ve sometimes felt that your dh feels his job is more important than yours’. I really didn’t know what to say. I sort of blabbered about that not being true and also how until recently I was part time etc.

afterwards I felt really sad. I’m not even sure why i felt so sad. I can’t talk to dh about it - he would be really upset and angry.
do you think my boss overstepped the line here?

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ShineyGreen · 05/07/2025 11:37

It sounds like she has got your back as a person as well as a line manager. It’s the sort of thing a trusted friend would say if they had that concern for you.

It sounds like the two of you have that sort of relationship (at work anyway).

I wouldn’t be upset about this, it doesn’t seem like it was meant maliciously- if it made you uncomfortable then it’s a note to self to not share stuff with her in the future. I wouldn’t think badly of my manager for this- nobody gets human interactions bang on all the time, and just because she is your boss doesn’t mean she is the most skilled manager of people on the planet/immune to making the odd error of judgement.

Having a good working relationship with a line manager is so so important, I would just chalk this up to experience for us both and move on. Maybe as your relationship is close for a workplace anyway you could mention that you didn’t realise it would make you feel uncomfortable discussing your marriage at work, especially because of your DH, but it did. (If you’ve talked about your relationship probs in the past she won’t have known that this was now off limits). If she is a decent human she won’t do it again. (Obvs if she does you’d need to be firmer!)

Glad that you get on well though and are clearly valued at work- makes such a difference to wellbeing doesn’t it.

Sandalsandbreadsticks · 05/07/2025 11:37

ByGreyTiger · 05/07/2025 06:45

Thanks for all your comments - interesting thoughts.
just to clarify a few things - I have never ever discussed my marriage with her, and I never would. She knows he was very stressed a few years ago but that’s because he spoke to her and a more senior colleague about it, asking for help. Me and her never went and discussed that between us.
when I say I get on well with her, I mean in a work sense. We don’t socialise, don’t chat much about our lives outside apart from maybe making a book recommendation to each other as we both like reading.

the reason I started talking to her about being part time was because my dh’s job was more important than mine. He was earning significantly more than me then, and we had two children in childcare - we were really struggling. I don’t think his job is more important now - well he earns a little more than me now but not by much and he is very supportive of my career, encourages me to go for promotions etc.

I think maybe I’m upset because it suggests she thinks he’s a bit of a dick which is sad - I don’t want people to think that. To be honest this whole
thing makes me think I need a new job somewhere else!

I don't know the nature of your relationship, it does seem odd that she would say this. But given what you've said - he says she is being passive aggressive, you've looked at the emails and you think he imagined it.

Now she's saying she thinks he thinks his job is more important than yours.

It sounds like she might see things about him, how he acts behind your back and towards other women, that you don't, and that she is concerned. That he has an attitude towards her, female authority and maybe women in the workplace in general.

Maybe she is concerned for you, and is on your side. She took a risk saying that, because she felt you needed to know. What does that say?

The alternative is that she is a very manipulative person, dislikes your husband and is trying to enlist you in undermining him.

You know both of these people so you'll have to make your own judgement. I'm leaning towards the former though because in my experience women tend to be far more blind to their male partner's flaws, and also because men often pretend to be completely different people in different places. She might just be looking out for you. He might have made disrespectful comments about you and your job that he thought you would never find out about. I would ask her what she meant by it, what she was basing it on, before you make a judgment.

lizzyBennet08 · 05/07/2025 11:41

Honestly op. I think you might be over thinking this. It's probable she's not a fan of your dh and that's fine different people find different things annoying or endearing . There are people I'm not a fan of who my dh thinks are hilarious and I have a number of friends that my husband doesn't gel with. It's part of life and totally normal.
i wouldn't tell your husband as I'm not sure there is anything to be gained only his hurt feelings but honestly she doesn't know him like you do so her opinion is just that. One persons opinion who doesn't know him half as well as you.

Hankunamatata · 05/07/2025 11:43

I wonder if its stinging as it may be a bit closer to the truth than you would like

NewGoldFox · 05/07/2025 11:44

It sounds like a hint not to allow your career to be second fiddle to his.

UpMyself · 05/07/2025 11:48

‘I’ve sometimes felt that your dh feels his job is more important than yours’.
There is nothing I can see in that comment that I'd find upsetting.
She expressed an opinion probably best kept to herself.

FloofyKat · 05/07/2025 11:50

I sing in a choir because it’s fun and a great way to make friends. However, I’ve never asked any other friends to come and listen as I know it’s not everyone’s cup of tea. They’ll ask me about what the next concert is, where we’re singing and wish me luck but they don’t come along. Ever. And I’ve never expected them to. Support and encouragement takes lots of different forms.

3luckystars · 05/07/2025 11:50

Just ignore it, who actually cares what she thinks she sounds like a complete idiot.

She knows nothing about your marriage and was just spouting off trying to make it look like she is ‘in the know’. That’s not everyone’s opinion, and it’s not the truth. You know the truth and don’t let her rain on your happy news of promotion. Well done x

5128gap · 05/07/2025 11:53

I think this situation is messy tbh with lines between personal and professional blurred. Your DH is being very unprofessional in showing you your line managers emails to him for example, meaning you are party to professional communication you shouldn't be, and know more about this woman that she might share with a direct report. She shouldn't be bringing your marriage into your job, but I don't know if you have much right to complain when you and DH are bringing your jobs into your marriage.
Sounds to me like her opinion of your DH isnt great, maybe she feels he's domineering based on how he comes across professionally, and she's concerned about his potential impact on your career and confidence.

ScaredtoBeOpen · 05/07/2025 11:55

I'd say your husband is right, she is passive aggressive. Sounds like she might subtly be saying he should pick up more of the child sick days etc. so that it's not a burden on your job and by extension her team?

andthat · 05/07/2025 11:56

@ByGreyTiger this all sounds a bit enmeshed… your husband shares emails with you that have been sent by your line manager… unprofessional.

Your line manager is commenting on what she believes your more senior husband thinks of his work status… unprofessional.

No need to be dramatic and find a new job. Just focus on your promotion and move on.

ScaredtoBeOpen · 05/07/2025 11:58

I'm not saying she's wrong (that he thinks that he's more important) and it is thoroughly annoying to be in a team and see women take all the flack letting their team down but she was wrong to say it out loud.

CunningLinguist2 · 05/07/2025 11:59

Line manager MASSIVELY overstepped!! Needless, pointless, personal and inappropriate comment

MargaretThursday · 05/07/2025 12:08

My first thought is maybe it is more important.

I mean dh earns about 3x what I do (both full time), has far more responsibility than I do, far more opportunity to advance etc. So if for some reason one of us had to give up our job for some reason, there would be no question who did.
Neither of us would have any doubt. I'm not sure we'd even really discuss it.

If I said to dh that "someone said you think your job is more important than mine" then he'd probably say "yes it is." Tbf I'd probably have said to the person "yes it is too!"

However his job is more flexible than mine and he works from home a lot of the time, so 95% of the time now when one of us has to flexi, it will be him. However if he has a unmovable meeting or is meeting a client etc. I would be the one that rearranges my work round it.

But if you're working from the same place then presumably you have the same flexibility etc.

So what I'm wondering if it's things like childcare. If (when the dc were younger - and tbf I was in a more flexible job too due to being part time, and he wasn't wfh) I would always be the one who came out of work to collect/appointments/illness etc. And we'd both have known that. If the school had phoned dh, then he's have phoned me to collect. If there was an appointment, I'd have the time off. If the gasman was coming, then I'd be the one nipping home to let them in and going back to work afterwards.

So if she's noticed that you do all the child appointments; are the one who stays at home to let the workman in, and maybe he's said a few things that have implied to her that he would expect you to do it with no thought that he might, then that might have inspired that comment. And there's nothing wrong if that's the way you did it, but it may have given that mindset to your dh without him thinking about it.

I've got a funny story about how the mindset can work. As I said, before dh wfh I would nip back for workmen etc. I was part time, so could make the time up and I worked 10 minutes away. I'd get them to call me when they were on the way, and drive back. Worked well.
Once dh was working from home after lockdown, I'd booked the gasman for a service. The conversation went like this:

Me: The gasman is coming to do the service on Wednesday about 11am,
Dh: Why are you telling me?
Me: Because you'll need to let them in.
Dh: What if I'm in a meeting?
Me: Have you got one booked?
Dh: No
Me: Then if someone asks for one, say you have to let the gasman in at that time.
Dh: I'm not sure I'll be able.
Me: You say "sorry, just got to let the gas man in" to your meeting, walk to the door, say "hello, there's the boiler, let me know if you need anything, sorry I'm in a meeting, so I need to get back" and go back to the meeting. 2 minutes.
Dh: Won't you be coming home to deal with him?
Me: You think it's better that I drive 10 minutes from work, wait around while he does the work and then go back, and have to make about 90 minutes of work up at the end of the day when you can take 2 minutes out of your day? On the basis you might have a meeting?
Dh: Ah!

Tbf to him he has done it since without any worries (and even comes out of meetings as long as they're not with clients). There are occasions when I point out to him how much better it would be if he dealt with the tradesmen and arranged them for times that suit him, but until he does, then he'll have to put up with my chosen times. And tbf he's not very good at that sort of thing because he knows nothing about it, so it's normally better I say what I want and he just lets them in.

Dh has done a lot of the cooking/shopping/childcare etc over the years (now does most of the cooking and shopping, no childcare needed) even when I was sahm so it's not that he's unwilling, just that it didn't occur to him that he needed to do it because I always had, and he hadn't really thought how it effected my day as opposed to his.

topcat2014 · 05/07/2025 12:10

Isn't it a basic fact that more senior jobs are more important. Isn't that kind of how things work?

Queenofthestonage · 05/07/2025 12:12

GonnaeNoDaeThatJustGonnaeNo · 05/07/2025 05:01

All3 of you are crossing lines.

he is sharing her emails with you and discussing her with you

she thinks you are friends and is making personal remarks and dis using him with you

you are privy to information about her that you should t have - eg her emails

when stuff like this happens lines get blurred and things go wrong

all of you need to find a way to be professional at work - you are all at fault

This nails it
it may be possible to get things onto a more professional basis if you stop discussing her with your DH and he keeps contact with her 100% work related

YerArseInParsley · 05/07/2025 12:17

ByGreyTiger · 05/07/2025 04:06

I feel I can talk to her about personal things a bit, share opinions on things/have a chat over a coffee in the office type thing. We don’t socialise outside of work at all and I feel that other people’s marriages are generally off limits?

it stung a bit because things were tricky a couple of years ago with two small children, me very part time, moving house, my dh got very stressed and I think felt a huge responsibility. I’m not going to deny it was an easy period for our marriage. However it makes me really sad to think that that’s what people think from the outside? I don’t know, just really upset me. and I can’t tell dh - it would really upset him too.

Do not keep telling her personal things especially if it about your marriage. U say the emails come across passive aggressive and now she made a comment to u about your husband.
She's one for keeping at arms length

ByGreyTiger · 05/07/2025 12:20

Thanks everyone. I think she meant well - I really don’t think she’s jealous of me and fancies dh!! She’s quite a bit older than us. She’s quite opinionated. Definitely a feminist (which I agree with of course) but also has lots of pro trans things on her desk/computer which I’m not sure I’d have at work, whatever your views.

dh always shares sick days with children. I think it hurt because I hate to think people think dh is not very nice. Thanks again everyone.

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ByGreyTiger · 05/07/2025 12:21

YerArseInParsley · 05/07/2025 12:17

Do not keep telling her personal things especially if it about your marriage. U say the emails come across passive aggressive and now she made a comment to u about your husband.
She's one for keeping at arms length

I don’t tell her anything personal!!! Just brief chit chats about where we’re going on holiday etc if anything!

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godmum56 · 05/07/2025 12:22

FloofyKat · 05/07/2025 11:50

I sing in a choir because it’s fun and a great way to make friends. However, I’ve never asked any other friends to come and listen as I know it’s not everyone’s cup of tea. They’ll ask me about what the next concert is, where we’re singing and wish me luck but they don’t come along. Ever. And I’ve never expected them to. Support and encouragement takes lots of different forms.

wrong thread?

hellywelly3 · 05/07/2025 12:24

I think she’s being your friend by saying that. I wonder if there’s been things he’s said in meetings that have given her that impression.

FloofyKat · 05/07/2025 12:25

godmum56 · 05/07/2025 12:22

wrong thread?

Aaaaaaargh! How did that happen? Sorry OP!

godmum56 · 05/07/2025 12:35

See I find it interesting for many reasons. My late DH earned shedloads more than me because he was in a global corporate business and I worked for the NHS. Financially his job was way more important to us. He had the kind of job where he could be called in at short notice when on call and sometimes had to deal with dangerous situations where he would be suddenly away from home with no notice for days at a time. This meant that I would pick up the day to day stuff (no kids) He was very proud of my job and what I did. I know this because some of his work colleagues were also our friends and they would know what I had been doing. If someone said to me "your husband thinks his job is more important than yours" I would have laughed and probably not even given it a second thought because I felt happy and secure in the way our relationship operated and didn't much care what other people thought.

CallmePaul · 05/07/2025 12:39

Can't understand why you'd be in anyway upset by that comment?

Motherofdragons24 · 05/07/2025 12:42

Well I mean is it true that his job “matters more than your” and does it matter? My husbands much higher earning than me, I’m part time and he’s full time. Arguably my job is more important in terms of society as I’m in healthcare and he’s an engineer but for our family, yeah his job is more important and if push came to shove we would prioritise his job as frankly it’s what keeps a roof over our heads. If he’s been the bread winner and you’ve been very part time for a while then yes his job kinda is more important as it’s what keeps the lights on. There’s nothing really wrong with that and it probably reflects the responsibility and stress he feels being the bread winner.

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