What time do you think Rachel will hand in her notice tomorrow?

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I think if it's not in already tonight then it will be before 10am tomorrow.

Err no. Balancing the books is basic common sense.

She is close to a breakdown. No job is worth feeling like this .

Bloody hell. Needs reporting.

Confirmed it was a personal matter.

If it was so personal and upsetting where was her judgement? You don't turn up for work if it's so personal you keep crying in public for the whole country to see but not offer any explanation.

Love all the Tories enablers ignoring the fact that the country is in a state because of them. Brexit, austerity, you name it.

Love all the Labour enablers ignoring their own party’s failings.

The issue with farms is that tax policies and general demand has driven up land prices so on paper farmers are millionaires. But the crops produced on that land do not produce anywhere near the returns that investing that land value elsewhere would. Many farmers work for well below the minimum wage. If families have to pay inheritance tax on the land value they would have to sell up as there would be no way they could sustain the debt from income. They would still have millions and just be sad they can no longer farm. No one else would be able to make a bigger income from growing food on that land either. BUT we as a country still need to eat and importing more and more of our food makes us more and more vulnerable.

For what? If you smirk through announcements people impacted will feel similarly when you cry. It’s nothing to do with anything personal.

You can’t impact people’s lives and think they’ll not notice.

So you agree with austerity now then?

It's lovely to see a women's forum supporting women - oh no that's not what the post is about.

I think some of you need to take a long hard look at yourselves the amount of glee you're showing.

I'm not a supporter, I don't have high regard for most politicians.

You don't know what's going on in her life, something could have happened and also I'm one of these people who will cry from frustration, I wish I didn't but I do.

Also any decisions made wouldn't have been made by her alone, they'd have been made at a higher level. She's been thrown under the bus by the cabinet.

Anyway those of you taking part in the bitch fest carry on as I'm sure you will

My DH mentioned this when I got home last night as I'd not seen the news.

I'm not a fan of RR (in fact, I have a letter drafted to her to send about the impact her tax decisions have had on smaller businesses), but I was shocked at how she was yesterday. She didn't look herself at all and was so visibly upset, my first thought was "why on earth is she there?". I know it's important that MPs are in Parliament, but surely there's exceptions if you're ill? I don't think she was in any fit state to be there yesterday.

Anyone kicking someone when they're down like that is an appalling human.

I've never heard of Steven Flynn, but I wish there were more MP's that had his empathy.

I haven’t watched PMQs but what did Starmer do to make RR cry?

It is reported that she was upset about a personal matter.

A tad of misogyny in that heading. It’s not clever

Surely you're advocating double standards?

RR made a big play about being the first woman ever to be Chancellor.
She doesn't want and shouldn't have more sympathy than a man doing her job, who has a bad day for whatever reason and breaks down in a very public event.

If we make allowances as women, for another woman, that's not being supportive , it's saying women need more support than a man and it's patronising.

Not ignoring, but rather being balanced, patient and not expecting them to work wonders and shit miracles after 14 years of Tory willful distruction.

If we make allowances as women, for another woman, that's not being supportive , it's saying women need more support than a man and it's patronising.

It's not making allowances for women. It's making allowances for humans.

An innocent who is/was completely out of her depth.

Politics is a tough gig..

Which of Liz Truss’s budget points do you think caused the markets to ‘plummet’? And why do you think they were more significant than the impact of the liability-driven investment crisis on gilts?

I think the point is that her behaviour caused the markets to crash. If she wasn't fit 'to be in work' then she should have had the judgement to know that, realise the impact of her emotional state would have on the markets, and not be in the commons for personal reasons. It all shows lack of judgement, and lack of understanding the markets likely reaction to a clearly emotional Chancellor.

She was upset when she walked in and took her seat-people behind her tapped her shoulder and asked if she was ok. It was clear she was struggling. Starmer was concentrating on replying to Kemi Badenoch. But realistically he should have been prepared to say he was backing Reeves and she wasn’t moving, any advisor would have told him that a suggestion she was leaving the post would spook the bond markets. The fact it spooked them also is an indication they think she’s a decent chancellor and didn’t want her to be sacked.

Looks like she’s not going to resign so cut her some slack

She’s only been in the job five minutes so she clearly isn’t up to it . That isn’t a good look for the party.

Which Is a way to try and shut down discussion and elicit sympathy rather than scrutiny. That ‘personal matter’ may have been her inability to manage her role.

@Wheresthebeachit was Starmer refusing to back her that caused the markets to crash.