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Lack of range on this forum

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AguNwaanyi · 01/07/2025 10:24

I am relatively new to posting on here but one thing that's stood out is a complete lack of range when discussing a variety of topics. Not everyone, but enough for it to be noticeable for me.

Take that recent £100k salary one which was littered with accusations of jealousy, laziness and entitlement to their money 😆. There were some reasonable counterpoints about how the salary doesn't stretch how it should and isn't exactly rich - fair enough - but some of the takes were just defensive when people raised wider points on capitalism, nepotism and societal structures impact how we progress. They took it as dismissing any hard work on their part. One person even brought in a great point about desirability politics in the workplace and the barriers/opportunities that stem from that but was basically told they needed to work on their self esteem (mind you, the person who responded this had the nerve to talk about my intelligence 😏).

There was one talking about teenagers skimpy clothing "these" days (already a-historical when you look at the evolution of style and attitudes towards respectability in dressing through the ages; conservative dressing has always been relative) and it went quickly to rape apologist rhetoric, rather than distinguishing between challenging hyper-sexualisation vs empowerment and abuse, which is a different category and nothing to do with how we dress.

I see this lack of nuance when discussing behaviour in children and adults. Given how many parents are on here it's shocking how many appear wilfully ignorant of child development stages (and a completely disregard for children as people generally, but that's a different conversation). Tantrums are seen as a sign of bad parenting or "naughty children". Teenagers with challenging behaviour are brats and other derogatives. When a young person or even adult does something wrong and that wrongdoing can be tied to a previous trauma or environmental circumstance, there is no interest in digging into what wider patterns we see and they believe if you do this you are trying to excuse the behaviour rather than understand it. Basic critical thinking gets eyerolls and called "woke nonsense".

And I am not just talking about people who I don't agree with. It's one thing to have a different take and ideology, and still apply range. And this isn't me thinking I'm smarter than everyone either (although if that's anyone's takeaway I will leave that with them). Not knowing something isn't the same as being stubbornly obtuse.

Anyone else feel this way? Feel free to ask me to clarify anything that isn't clear.

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MrsTerryPratchett · 01/07/2025 17:00

zaxxon · 01/07/2025 16:55

I am using the word within an understood meaning. It may be you just haven't come across this use before

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This.

WhereOnEarthIsMyPlanet · 01/07/2025 17:16

AguNwaanyi · 01/07/2025 16:38

I am using the word within an understood meaning. It may be you just haven't come across this use before, or maybe I am being unclear; either way it's why I said people can ask for clarifications.

The examples I have given are not just about people disagreeing, they are about people refusing to understand wider contexts to a situation, or acknowledge it's intersections, apply empathy, seek information on a subject, or critical engage with a perspective. You can do all this and still come up with a take that I or anyone else will disagree with.

Believing women are sexually harassed because they wear revealing clothing is not a perfectly reasonably perspective. We have pedagogical evidence to show tantrums in children is linked to their brain development. The former especially, is not a perfectly reasonable view to have, either.

In this thread alone, I have responded to a few people who have disagreed with me, offering perspectives I have admitted I may not have considered and thanked them for it, so this idea I am just mad I am not swaying others towards my views doesn't add up.

I asked a question and wanted to hear what others have to say, which is more-or-less what's happening.

Ok, so as you’re saying there is a lack of ‘range’, do you mean that everyone on that thread had the opinion that women were sexually harassed because they wear revealing clothing? Because I find that hard to believe. In fact I can’t imagine that view being expressed on MN without many posters disagreeing strongly.

CrystalSingerFan · 01/07/2025 17:17

MagnifyingLass · 01/07/2025 16:43

Goodness me. I only popped in for a large Pinot.

Pint of lager and a bag of pork scratchings, please!

whitewineandsun · 01/07/2025 17:19

BIWI · 01/07/2025 16:57

I am using the word within an understood meaning. It may be you just haven't come across this use before, or maybe I am being unclear

Do you know the meaning of the word ‘patronising’ then?

I need the laugh emoji back.

CrystalSingerFan · 01/07/2025 17:27

HiRen · 01/07/2025 15:06

Yes, dear. Everyone on here is thick and should work on their critical thinking skills to be more like you.

Hmm

There’s plenttttty of range on here if you know how to read between the lines, and see what’s not said as much as what is. Get over yourself.

Thanks, HiRen.

I'd like to support that idea - silence is also a message.

If a troll responds rudely to a post of mine (made in good faith), I could spend time arguing with them, hopefully demonstrating my critical thinking skills, or I could just go with Schiller's "Against human stupidity, even the Gods are powerless." (Other translations are available).

And remain silent.

vodkaredbullgirl · 01/07/2025 17:37

Give me a good old dog thread any day 😄

MinnieMountain · 01/07/2025 17:38

Oh I don’t know @vodkaredbullgirl . This thread is getting delightfully bonkers.

PlayfulWrangler · 16/08/2025 06:46

I find it helps o put a Poster's intent/attitude into context by checking out their other posts on MUMSNET. If they are repeatedly victimy or blame others, then don't waste your time.

PlayfulWrangler · 16/08/2025 06:54

I'm quicklygoing OFF MUMSNET. The comments get ruder, less relevant and stupider the further down one scrolls these endless threads. It's not better than REDDIT or Quora.

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