Labour isn't working - Thread 4

[TheNuthatch]

A chat thread for those who don't like this Labour government.

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I’m actually irritated enough by old white men at Labour declaring her a dud to do so!

Good on her. I mean the policies aren’t what I’d go for but it rankles when people stamp on women at least trying.

I know this might be surprising 😬

It's not about whether someone is male or female. It's about competence and credibility. To support someone just because they are a woman daring to have a go is mere tokenism.

You know what? Im with you on this one. Ive just been called 'flower' in an all male meeting 🤬. I'm a very angry raging feminist right now, who hates men.

I thought of Reeves being paraded by Starmer yesterday, then she sat on a little chair whilst he mansplained her mental health to the journalists.

Sultana is completely batshit, but all power to her.

Yep! It was this post that tipped me the other way.

I googled who he was and felt too annoyed, and signed up

Some Labour MPs on the left of the party have praised Sultana but so far none has said they will be joining the new setup.

Ian Lavery, Labour MP for Blyth, told the BBC's World at One: "Perhaps she thinks she hasn't left the Labour party, but the Labour party has left her".
www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy0wvkg492ro

Also work mostly with men, and I have to resort to shouting at them, at times, to get a word in…good for her

Same. It's shit.
All power to you too.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/jul/04/keir-starmer-free-school-meals-nhs-voters

We are about to become Labour's collateral damage.
My DH heard today his post is at risk of redundancy because the plant his small employer serves has closed as a direct consequence of Starmer's tariff concessions.
That and the increased NI means that two of the four jobs are being axed.

@Orangesandlemons77 Not exactly a glowing report. In summary, he's talentless but too arrogant to see it.

@EasternStandard I'm afraid I'll have to withdraw my feminist support for ZS. I've just been reading about her. She thinks some women have a penis so I'm out. I do hope she causes some waves with the stuffy old men though.

I'm really sorry to hear that. Awful news, and very worrying for all four staff. I hope your DH is one of the lucky ones. Will he have to wait long to find out?

No, he'll definitely be one of them. The other two are the owners 😂
He's 62 so happy times ahead

@Katypp that’s so worrying - I’ve got my fingers crossed

@KatyppI’m so sorry to hear that. Labour are absolute buggers 😭😭

@TheNuthatchI agree with you entirely but got the Labour old arrogant male rage. She can do some damage and I’ll be ok with it.

@Katypp I'm so sorry. Labour are damaging so many businesses and it's costing jobs. Rant to us whenever you feel the need.

Headlines re Reeves blaming welfare rebels for incoming tax rises.

Buckle up everyone

Remember Labour posters and media going nuts crying liar over Sunak saying tax rises will happen. And here we are.

Hope you’re ok @katypp

Colour me surprised. At least she's admitted it rather than just saying it's speculation all the way to Autumn. Most economists were convinced that taxes were going up in the budget, even before the welfare rebellion.
I'm not sure blaming the backbenchers is a good idea if Downing St want to improve relations with the PLP.

Yes Sunak was right, but he was torn to shreds for it. I hope Sunak and Hunt have enjoyed watching the chaos of the past week. I miss them. I've noticed that you rarely see labour supporters go after Sunak, they seem to want to gloss over the fact that he was the PM (not Johnson) before Starmer, and that the economy was showing some green shoots. He also provided more nhs appointments without strangling businesses, stomping on the vulnerable, and borrowing eye watering sums. Excuse my bias.

I completely agree, it’s a real shame that we didn’t have Sunak-Hunt for longer.

Yes agree. Posters go on about the media. Sunak was eviscerated there and on here for non policy stuff. So here we are.

Agree Campbell talks about a rw media but the same media was desperate to get the tories out and liked the look of Starmer and reeves

'Eat out to help out' hardly did Sunak any favours. Or the people who died as a result of it.

Yes that was the easiest a party has had for a while

Yes, agree. Even The Sun backed labour. It's not the media's fault that Starmer's government are a shambles.
Campbell can STFU. His credibility went down the toilet with Blair's imo. I stopped listening to TRIP a while ago. I hear from others that they rarely discuss the current government anymore, and generally stick to Stewart's excellent knowledge of global politics. I wonder why that is?

And as for rishi causing lots of deaths - it certainly didn’t have a significant negative impact per bbc verify. Kids going back to school did.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-67658106.amp

I do still listen to TRIP occasionally - it’s interesting that Campbell thinks that labour aren’t doing a good job on education. The latest one he said the schools he’s visited recently the HTs have been quite dismayed.

so when he doesn’t put the best gloss on it you know things are bad!

Interesting. I suppose it's beyond denial now for most.
Am I right in thinking that the vote on SEND provisions is going through parliament soon? I can't quite remember, but could be another showdown with backbenchers now they've tasted blood.