Labour isn't working - Thread 4

[TheNuthatch]

A chat thread for those who don't like this Labour government.

Previous thread:
www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5333471-labour-isnt-working-thread-3

Reading of what?

Anyway moving on. Must ignore. Back to Labour.

Honestly, I must have a heart of stone because I have no sympathy for RR whatsoever.
She is the one who has put this country into such a mess.
Liz Truss did the same thing, yet she was reviled.
I still haven't forgotten the disgusting displays when Margaret Thatcher died. Regardless of your politics, to celebrate someone's death is appalling. So on the basis that left-wingers also have form for hard heartedness, I stand my my heart-of-stone approach. Actually, I think I've said before, RR reminds me a bit of Thatcher.

@Katyppyes those fully signed up to Labour are missing his other female politicians are absolutely torn apart. Here and generally. They probably add to it.

Well, she is the self-coined iron chancellor. Less iron and more bath bomb now though.

Haha bath bomb, v good

I'm stealing that 😂😂

Ah you're welcome but I think you meant disdain.

You're right, I did. Bit of a brain fart there.

I did feel really sorry for her, I don’t like to say anyone crying tbh. BUT politics is brutal and I think often to get to the point where you are even selected as a candidate for MP especially in the Labour party machinery (heard ex Labour politician talking about how many hurdles you have to jump) Is difficult. You probably have to be quite tough to do it in the first place.

I think if you can’t keep calm you shouldn’t be in the chamber tbh.

I think we will have 4 years of refusing to cut anything from the back benches who now know they can bully the prime minster so more taxes and borrowing it is. Very depressing thought.

I don’t understand the low skilled office work visa expansion. We have plenty of NEETs who should be encouraged into these jobs as a starting point for their careers. The government has already laid waste to part time jobs through their NI changes. Just seems another way to stop young people from getting access to entry level work.

Yes you're right. Ive only read a little bit about that, but on the face of it, it doesn't make sense in the current climate. The jobs market is terrible at the moment, and as you say, our young people can't catch a break.

Why do the usual Labour lot get so exercised by Reeves stuff when they do the same to Tory female politicians and worse?

It’s more of that Labour hypocrisy isn’t it.

The government was reckless to assume that they could lean on blind loyalty to push the bill through without all of the scaffolding around it, the Timms review, the co-production, any decent pr to sell the policy to members and their constituents.

This has completely blown up in their face, it's demonstrated weakness that can be explored by the backbenchers and it will save no money, in fact - now it will cost more.

You'd think losing double digit polling intentions after only a year in office - a feat not managed since the 90s under Major - would be rock bottom but this is going to be brutal. And we'll all be paying for this shambles in the next budget.

Another non sequitur post? Who are you talking about?

We shouldn't be shocked by it. You know the drill. It must be difficult for them as they can no longer carp and froth from opposition.

Yep it was pure arrogance and I don't think they have a clue where they go from here.

Not directed to the pp, so not replying to that but musing to others on thread.

Just something I’ve noticed on various pro Labour threads. Constant attacks on female Tory politicians all day long. Then hypocrisy over this.

Sorry. I do agree with you on this.

Just looked at some posts and it’s off the scale. Really bizarre. And fixation on a few here on top.

I knew exactly what you meant, and who you were talking about 🙄

So personal and fixated too. Bizarre.

It’s clear from all of the way they’ve handled policy and PR around their policies that the labour top team only have compassion for traditional labour groups. If I had to say what i disliked the most other than the effect of their policies so far, I’d say it was the sneery uncompassionate PR. And apparently they are the same with each other…

Iron chancellor - I don’t think that’s a good look for a chancellor making cuts no - Osborne is still reviled for austerity. Ther comms has been spectacularly talentless.

did anyone see they tweeted a photo of Starmer with Reeves sad in the background crowing about their achievements and it got taken down?

Who tweeted the photo? @Arrearing50
How awful.

It was on the official Keir Starmer x feed under ‘promises made, promises delivered’