Thread 25 Starmer - Cheers for a falling out among thieves

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Has Farage even ever looked at where in the UK has the lowest life expectancy? This is famously Blackpool but until last year it was S Wales for women and 10 years ago EASILY South Wales for men. Now I wonder why that is?

Has he considered why male life expectancy is accelerating and due to catch up with women's by 2035??

Have to say it says a fair bit about Labour’s fear of Farage that they would announce this gold plated diamond encrusted u turn to override the Talbot speech.

They are scared, really scared

Does he care?

Or any days. My dad was sent from S Wales to London to live in a chapel boys’ home and work as a bicycle delivery boy to avoid him going down the mines in the 1930s.

I always thought Glasgow had the lowest life expectancy of anywhere on the UK?

Imho, Labour are right to be worried about Reform, i'm not sure they are scared as such but i do think Reform may well prove to be the main opposition to a Labour victory at the next GE.

I think the public have had it with the Tory party & i'm not convinced they can ever recover.

All them feckless disabled people. They need to pull their fingers out and do something useful and are totally expendable, anyhow.

(sarcasm for those who struggle to recognise it.)

As predicted there’s a lot of moaning about the threshold being too high now, presumably from people who complained it was too low before, or who have no history of campaigning for there to be a threshold at all…

Well the moaning was inevitable but Reeves! Her judgment looks really suspect. Arguably she has taken a huge amount of punishment for a measure that has been all but reversed and it still looks like come the autumn she will have the same problem.

It has been for nothing. Stagnant economy, stagnant Chancellor?

Sorry, yes, you are quite correct. That's E & W . Not much difference, tbh.

You have to break Glasgow down- because obviously it's not Milngavie or Kelvinside. It's always said to be Calton - the life expectancy there is known as the 'Calton Effect'.

Certainly does seem UNICEF couldn't have chosen a worse day for their press release. (Or a better day if you're the government).

It can't be stressed enough that some people are never happy. And a really good skill in life is to identify these as early as possible so you can stay well out of their dramas.

I heard Farage saying it’s great Labour have followed their advice.

Reeves should resign. She has made a mess of this.

I do think Reeves is out of her depth and today’s announcement has done little to change my mind. Maybe it’s time to reshuffle.

Make Rayner Chancellor. Mumsnet would explode.

I think she is finished actually. She will limp on to do the spending review and the autumn budget but her chief role will now be taking punishment for the spending review and the cuts being proposed. After that, all bets are off. Her colleagues are briefing the press against her.

Blood in the water.

This is politics.

Much better to "reward" her with an "upwards" move whilst simultaneously sneaking someone into place with less or no baggage so the opposition have to start again.

Remember The Peter Principle. There is no hard in rewarding failure as it incentivises all the other losers in the hierarchy.

Usually the Tories wouldn't hesitate at this. It's only because they managed to tie themselves to the concrete anchor that was Brexit that they had no options open.

Where can she move “upwards”? There’s nothing much above being chancellor. It would be madness to move her to the foreign or home offices. I agree that she’ll be the scapegoat for all the missteps of the first year in government.

The Lords ? Lady Reeves ?

A great way to piss off the Tories (I mean they can't really draw attention to their own nominations can they ?).

Some MNers would combust 😂

That's not my concern 😈

Nor mine 😈

I thought DH was kidding when he said £35000. Crikey.

Wouldn't they have to risk a by-election for that to happen?