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Caught doing 87 on an A road - stupid - what will happen?

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Speeding87stupid · 31/05/2025 20:40

We were on holiday, road was empty and we were rushing to get to a check in.

Just got home and received a scary letter in the post from the police.

I know it was monumentally stupid. Will write back immediately saying yes it was me.

I’ve never had a speeding fine - can’t believe I was so stupid, I never usually speed.

What will they do - will I lose my licence?

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AnnaQuayInTheUk · 31/05/2025 22:00

@CaptainFuture don't be ridiculous. Some A roads are 60, some are 70, some are 40. It depends on the road. Many A roads are dual carriageways. I drove on the A14 through Cambridgeshire and Suffolk today which is 70mph along almost all of it. I also drove on rte A12 which varied between 40mph and 70mph depending on which bit I was on.

Chocolateorange22 · 31/05/2025 22:01

You live and learn

Yes it was a bit silly but you can take the points and fine. Worth thinking about what you could have done differently on the day to help if a similar situation comes up again

The SAC I attended was an absolute eye opener and quite terrifying. I've adjusted my driving style since. I know what I did wrong and I use the tools within our car to ensure I'm within the speed limit everywhere nowadays.

Malbecfan · 31/05/2025 22:02

CaptainFuture · 31/05/2025 20:46

A roads in UK are 60. You were clearly not being an observant but a dangerous driver.
Is this where you live?

As many other posters have stated, dual carriageways have a limit of 70 mph unless indicated otherwise.

My commute involves 13 miles along an A road. The first mile has a 30 mph limit, then 2 miles of 40mph, half a mile of 30 mph, half a mile of 20 mph, half a mile of 30 mph, half a mile of 40 mph, 7.5 miles of National Speed Limit (60 mph as there is no physical barrier between the 2 directions of traffic) then a further half mile with a 30 mph limit. Your assertion is complete nonsense.

I live in a rural hamlet. The road through it has a 30 mph limit. I do Speedwatch with some of my neighbours and we have clocked drivers doing 50+ mph on numerous occasions. IMO, this is more dangerous than the OP's case as there are walkers, children, animals etc and no pavements or central reservation and it's quite narrow. People need to stop being so judgemental about the OP.

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Pelicanos · 31/05/2025 22:02

Lolabear38 · 31/05/2025 21:52

@Speeding87stupid you made a mistake and you’ve owned it and it certainly sounds like you’ve learned from it. I think the biggest mistake you’ve made in this situation is posting about it on MN - you clearly forgot everyone on here is perfect and has never made any mistakes or errors of judgement in their lives so sadly they can’t relate in this situation and can only cast judgement from their pedestals of righteousness.

Thankfully, nothing bad happened and I’m sure you’ll be a lot more careful in future. Fingers crossed it’s just a fine and some points and we can all move on x

Sorry - was meant to quote as above .

CaptainFuture · 31/05/2025 22:03

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vroooom · 31/05/2025 22:03

That's unfortunate. I regularly do mid-80s on the motorway, never been caught. I've found Google Maps is good at warning of speed traps, but Waze is even better - just a tip for next time! Hope you don't get fined too hard and good luck.

Rosscameasdoody · 31/05/2025 22:03

InTheWindow · 31/05/2025 21:51

Yes. People die and are left with life changing injuries on roads everyday in accidents caused by speeding drivers who think the rules don’t apply to them. I’ve been overtaken dangerously on that road (and others) while driving at the limit with my daughter in the car. On single lane A roads I have had to slow significantly to prevent collisions because of drivers overtaking dangerously in the opposite direction. They probably think they are great drivers.

And no doubt you have a perfect driving record.

Chocolateorange22 · 31/05/2025 22:04

justasking111 · 31/05/2025 21:50

The A55 is 70

I'm sure I read its the only road in Wales (possibly UK) that uses a 70 sign instead of a national speed black/white sign. Always tickles us when we drive past it.

PeapodMcgee · 31/05/2025 22:04

People are winding you up OP. Look up the threshold for speed awareness course for that force, someone posted earlier that it's under 86 in a 70 zone.

If it's your first offense I bet they'll offer you a choice of course anyway (costs you about £100 to attend), or to take a £100 fine and points. You can do the course via Zoom and it's only 2-3 hours.

Shitmonger · 31/05/2025 22:05

So much melodrama here.

@Speeding87stupid Don't beat yourself up too much. I’ve gotten this exact ticket (87 in a 70) though I was abroad so I’m no help on penalties. Actually I was barreling to the airport early in the morning to drop off my rental car and hop on a flight back to the UK. The roads were gorgeous and empty and the rental car was zippy so I was having a grand old time. At least until a rather terrifying-looking officer with the most impressive, jangly belt of tools pulled me over. We were both very confused as he clearly wasn’t expecting a random British woman at 4am and I wasn’t sure how to give him the paperwork he wanted for a rental car. It ended up just being £100 that I paid online.

Rosscameasdoody · 31/05/2025 22:05

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WTF are you talking about ? You stated A roads in the UK are 60mph. I was simply pointing out that some are 70mph.

Blinkingbother · 31/05/2025 22:06

You’ll prob get 3 points and a nominal fine (too fast for speed awareness). Ignore people being unnecessarily horrid - yes, you made a mistake, you’ll learn from it. I’m more concerned about the morons doing 70/80 in single lane 60 mph zones who put my life in jeopardy daily than someone going over on a relatively empty dual carriageway… I drive 30,000 miles per year and see people do daft shit constantly …this is pretty tame by comparison.

JudgeJ · 31/05/2025 22:06

CaptainFuture · 31/05/2025 20:46

A roads in UK are 60. You were clearly not being an observant but a dangerous driver.
Is this where you live?

A dual carriageway A road with national speed limit is 70mph.

SalmonWellington · 31/05/2025 22:06

You could have killed someone.

Iceandfire92 · 31/05/2025 22:07

OP try not to worry, I'm sure 90% of the pearl clutchers on this thread have driven at over 80mph on the motorway at one point in their lives. The very worst that will happen will be 3 points.

RainbowAndArrow · 31/05/2025 22:07

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Shitmonger · 31/05/2025 22:08

Iceandfire92 · 31/05/2025 22:07

OP try not to worry, I'm sure 90% of the pearl clutchers on this thread have driven at over 80mph on the motorway at one point in their lives. The very worst that will happen will be 3 points.

I strongly suspect that most of the pearl clutchers have never driven at all.

CoughCoughLaugh · 31/05/2025 22:11

Gunnersforthecup · 31/05/2025 21:56

That's a very useful table.

I note it mentions

Factors reducing seriousness or reflecting personal mitigation

  • No previous convictions or no relevant/recent convictions
  • Positive character and/or exemplary conduct (regardless of previous convictions)
  • Genuine emergency established

So is it worth dropping them a line, and while acknowledging guilt, admitting the seriousness of the situation and assuring that you would take great pains not to repeat this, pointing out any potential mitigating factors.

For example, does it count that you needed to check in for a flight?

And would it count more if this flight were, say, to see a family member seriously taken ill?

I'm not at all suggesting anyone should write anything other than the strict truth, I just wonder if anyone here knows how this mitigation business works, as it is interesting.

She wasn't checking in for a flight...

And no, that wouldn't count as mitigation anyway.

GinToBegin · 31/05/2025 22:12

Gunnersforthecup · 31/05/2025 21:56

That's a very useful table.

I note it mentions

Factors reducing seriousness or reflecting personal mitigation

  • No previous convictions or no relevant/recent convictions
  • Positive character and/or exemplary conduct (regardless of previous convictions)
  • Genuine emergency established

So is it worth dropping them a line, and while acknowledging guilt, admitting the seriousness of the situation and assuring that you would take great pains not to repeat this, pointing out any potential mitigating factors.

For example, does it count that you needed to check in for a flight?

And would it count more if this flight were, say, to see a family member seriously taken ill?

I'm not at all suggesting anyone should write anything other than the strict truth, I just wonder if anyone here knows how this mitigation business works, as it is interesting.

Aggravating and mitigating factors are standard across all offences, and are generally more relevant for offences which have broader sentencing ranges, such as driving without due care and attention or theft from a shop. Speeding is, by and large, pretty cut and dried. 68 in a 60 will likely be three points and a Band A fine, regardless of the circumstances.

A genuine emergency, such as getting someone in urgent need to medical help might have a bearing. By and large, though, any mitigation will be read and noted, and make no difference to the penalty. An early guilty plea should see the financial penalty reduced by up to 1/3.

Oh, and the old chestnut about a speeding allowance of 10% plus 2mph is not a thing. At least, not where I live; other areas might differ, I suppose.

LakieLady · 31/05/2025 22:12

ThatsNotMyTeen · 31/05/2025 20:49

Hopefully you won’t lose your licence but I reckon you’ll get more than 3 points

I'd say that's a cert, possibly 6. And a fine, of course.

You may get fewer points if you agree to do a speed awareness course, OP.

MatildaMovesMountains · 31/05/2025 22:12

SalmonWellington · 31/05/2025 22:06

You could have killed someone.

To be fair, so could anyone when out driving, regardless of speed. Being run over at 70mph is not much different from 87mph.

LittleMG · 31/05/2025 22:13

I know this isn’t what you want to hear OP but honestly you were driving dangerously and deserve to lose your license as that sort of behaviour kills people. Hopefully this is a wake up call. 87 goodness that is really OTT.

ClearHoldBuild · 31/05/2025 22:13

Spirallingdownwards · 31/05/2025 22:00

You post actually says "it'll be court ..."

I’m the roads policing manager for a police force.
it’ll be court as it’s over the threshold for speed awareness courses etc but it won’t be a ban.
It is dependant on the actual force what they do but you can generally expect 6 points and a fine through the court

so my comprehension is fine. No opening "probably not"

Edited

Nowhere did @BadgersSuitcase say they would have to attend court just that it would go to court.

LeicesterDad · 31/05/2025 22:15

Speeding87stupid · 31/05/2025 20:49

Yes I know it was unbelievably stupid.

the road was empty and we’d been caught for hours earlier in the journey and our accommodation said we couldn’t check in after 7. It was 6.20.

I know this is no excuse

I was clocked doing 37 in a 30 zone and given the option of a speed awareness course. It was one of the most educational days of my adult life.

One of the exercises included everyone having to come up with excuses for speeding, including the one they were using personally for the day they were spotted. Then we had to imagine that the person we loved the most had just been hit by a speeding car, and at the scene the person driving the car used the excuse we had come up with to explain why they were driving over the speed limit. There were people on the course literally sobbing at this point.

Imagine if your child was hit by a person driving 87 miles an hour and they then tried to explain to you that it was because they were running late to check into their holiday accommodation.

Given you were driving at 87 miles an hour in a 70 zone you will not be offered the option of a speed awareness course, but I think that is a shame. It should be mandatory, in addition to the points and fine.

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